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Harry loves MUNICH!

MUNICH is quite frankly a masterpiece of film storytelling. Whether or not it is great history – is frankly, not for me to decide. That MOSSAD Agents are lining up to essentially attack the film for claiming that they might have a conscience… well, sadly – that’s the whole point of the film.

You see, this was a film made by a man with a conscience. Spielberg is a citizen of the world that makes films for everyone in the world to enjoy. He’s an incredibly emphatic person who can’t help but think about what he would think if he were put into the incredible situations that the characters (fictional or non-fictional) that occupy his cinematic universes.

Is it really surprising that someone that loves PINNOCHIO would imbue his hardened characters with a Jiminy Cricket? I find it hard to imagine not being haunted by killing anyone. It’s kinda why I try to avoid intensely violent situations. Most every review I’ve seen for MUNICH seems to reflect directly upon the direct actions of the film. The retaliation of the Israeli government upon those responsible for the Munich Olympic slaughter of Israeli Athletes. That is the surface level story that the film is telling, but I also feel that Spielberg’s film is dealing with something greater than just the Israeli – Palestinian conflict.

The haunting last shot – seems to suggest a last question from Spielberg to the audience. What will be the end results of our own bloody vengeance? If you can trace modern terrorism back to Munich – what bloody retribution will come from an escalation of bloody vengeance taken to a new scale in the wake of the removal of those ghostly towers in the closing shots.

What paranoia and nightmares are we giving the young men today that we send out to get our bloody revenge? Where will they move? How will they live?

Sure, I’m a bleeding heart liberal that feels the country should have spent every cent we’ve spent on this revenge towards eliminating the internal combustion engine and devaluing oil, thus marginalizing the importance of the region. That America should have led through innovation, not bloodshed. That our capitalistic tendencies and good ol American know how are more valuable toward demonstrating the perseverance of our country – rather than bombs and blood. Again, I’m a peacenik. I know.

Spielberg’s film is about the debate about what to do when assaulted. How do we react? How will they react to our reaction? And he does it with a case study of what happened in the past when Israel’s pride was bloodied, and they sought to bloody all responsible. He seeks to remind us of the historical precedent of retribution and it’s end result of eye for an eye bloodshed, which in turn never ends. And his character, Eric Bana, chooses to put away the weapons of vengeance to attempt to break bread in a new life in a new land. To begin again. Raise his child, love his wife. Re-take his life.

These are important messages. And Spielberg tells them in the confines of a genre I really really love. Essentially – this is a spy film. A Men on a mission film. God, if MISSION IMPOSSIBLE or JAMES BOND operated on this level of cinema – we’d truly live in a better world of film.

Beyond the heady moralism that Spielberg imbues the film with, he creates a lean focused narrative about a 5 men team operating to hunt and kill 11 men. As the missions start – they’re careful about collateral damage. Seeking to isolate the vengeance to those they are told were responsible. Then – as the missions get harder and harder – the fire of vengeance takes everyone around the target in question. Leaving bloodier and bloodier scenes in their wake.

The gore in the film is terribly haunting. The effects of bombs upon a human body, bullets and death – all unflinchingly told. I love this Spielberg. I’m told he was shooting almost entirely on instinct on this film, and under the gun of a quick release, his instincts held true. This is the surest and least flabby flick he’s made in years.

This feels less like the cinematography of Janusz Kaminski – and felt a bit more like Douglas Slocombe’s work in RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK – it is very classically shot. It also reminds me of Bill Butler’s work on THE CONVERSATION. In fact – there’s a lot about this film that reeks of seventies filmmaking. The colors and stock used in making this film had a friend behind me exclaim at the end of the film, “Finally a movie that looks like a movie!” Indeed.

This is a hard film that wants to get inside the men that are sent to do the things we don’t want to think about. The film wants to humanize them, and if the film has a fault – it’s in daring to do exactly that. The film doesn’t just humanize the assassins, but the targets. Not only that - Steven dares to put them in the same room, to find a music they can both stand. To have the leader of a PLO group talk with a leader of an Israeli group about the resolve and hopelessness of either's situation. The scene reminded me of the same scene in Michael Mann's HEAT. The result is the best dialogue between two characters on film this year.

We like to think of those on the other side as inhuman retches of society. They probably eat animals raw – or even fetid rancid with maggots. They spend all their time sharpening knives and acting like crazed madmen frothing at the mouth. They hate life and go around slapping anyone that looks at them.

In the 40s when we went to war with Japan, Italy and Germany – we made them inhuman monstrosities. It’s easier to kill an animal, than a man. Here, Spielberg attempts to defuse that by making these plotters of the unthinkable… just men. Intellectuals that would translate books to further their culture. That have cute children and loving wives. That appreciate a night sky and young love. That dream of living where their fathers lived and raising an olive tree. A people that dream of a better tomorrow, but dedicated to die for that dream. Same as the men that are hunting them.

When the film turns into a film about the hunters being hunted – that is when the tension levels raise to an incredibly uncomfortable level. When a pay-off to a “funny anecdote” about a MOSSAD agent that one of the crew once knew and his sleeping habits occurs, the film truly hits a scary stage.

There’s a part of me that wishes that Spielberg would just make films set in cinematic periods. His eye and his attention to detail is so loving. He truly captures the era, tone, sound and feeling of those films. This isn’t a flashy film that seems to call attention to its technique. It’s just nuts & bolts filmmaking at the top of Spielberg’s game.

The casting of this film is just exceptional. Bana is a great Spielberg protagonist. Daniel Craig’s appearance has me sad. He’s very very good in this, and I hate to see him prematurely dooming his career by taking on Bond. I love that Spielberg cast Ciaran Hinds as one of the more likable characters. He’s a great character actor that is often found playing heavies, and here – he’s a mysterious conscience and wise man of the group. Taking AMELIE’s lover and turning him into a toymaker/bomb maker was genius. He’s such a great face and performer. The use of Geoffrey Rush – it is strange. Ever since he played Peter Sellers – I honestly can’t look at Rush the same way. To me – this is exactly how Peter Sellers would have played this part, and I love it. Because Sellers was one of my favorite actors.

My favorite character in the film is played by Hugo Drax. After his Space Shuttle plan failed – he apparently came back to Earth and settled down to a nice life of information exchange in France. Heh. I love Michael Lonsdale – and his appearance in this film was a real treat. His Papa was such a treat. I love deadly serious dialogue scenes between men while cooking. Be they Coppola or Johnny To – they’re scenes that instantly command the attention. One – you’re thinking. What are they cooking? Two – What is this a metaphor for? Then you wonder… What does that taste like? Then – MMMMMm, bet that’s good. Or… maybe that’s just me.

Honestly – I don’t want to see Spielberg do an Abraham Lincoln film – and in many ways – I’m really not anxious at this juncture to see him do another INDIANA JONES. What I am dying to see him do is a period Musical or Film Noir. I’d love to see Spielberg’s take on Horror. I’d love to see him do a swashbuckler. And a few more paranoia thrillers and something romantic.

And I want him to make 3 movies a year. Because I think the less time we give him to make a movie, the better the film will be. It reminds me of that old saying that Harrison Ford used to say was the only bit of direction that Lucas gave him, “Faster and more intense.” Exactly Steven. Faster and more intense… like this one!

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Good review
by c4andmore
Dec 27th, 2005
07:55:04 AM
nice, level-headed review...
by newc0253
Dec 27th, 2005
07:59:10 AM
and by the way:
by newc0253
Dec 27th, 2005
08:01:26 AM
third
by andyrew
Dec 27th, 2005
08:01:51 AM
Can't wait to see this.
by Uncle_Les
Dec 27th, 2005
08:51:45 AM
when was the list time Harry hated a movie???
by BadBrad
Dec 27th, 2005
09:02:41 AM
Nothing easier than moral equivalency.
by genro
Dec 27th, 2005
09:14:07 AM
Spielberg's Jurrasic Park is infinitely better than Jackson&
by The Dubliner
Dec 27th, 2005
09:20:34 AM
Yes. "A movie that looks like a movie"
by Film Whisperer
Dec 27th, 2005
09:27:40 AM
RE: "Imagine he and Jackson working together on a film? Man that
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 27th, 2005
09:31:40 AM
BadBrad...
by havocSchultz
Dec 27th, 2005
09:50:00 AM
HEIL HITLER!!
by tsw101
Dec 27th, 2005
09:55:57 AM
The Terrorist
by DannyOcean01
Dec 27th, 2005
09:57:01 AM
Public Relations campaign against Israel, anchorite? Where?
by I Dunno
Dec 27th, 2005
09:57:41 AM
Moral equivalence: Exhibit
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
10:07:44 AM
honestly the best review i've read in a long time.
by spooky2k
Dec 27th, 2005
10:55:29 AM
cantankerous
by lopan
Dec 27th, 2005
10:58:26 AM
"Sure, I
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
11:01:31 AM
all supposed historical revisionism aside
by lopan
Dec 27th, 2005
11:03:27 AM
Spielberg's take on horror?
by Batutta
Dec 27th, 2005
11:05:14 AM
I agree with Harry and a great review from him.
by MontyPigeon
Dec 27th, 2005
11:08:40 AM
Oh God, yet MORE inappropriate Nazi-Communism diatribes
by Pumpkinsboy
Dec 27th, 2005
11:12:38 AM
Well anchorite, you're going to see a little of what you cou
by I Dunno
Dec 27th, 2005
11:18:43 AM
...and for the record,
by I Dunno
Dec 27th, 2005
11:20:57 AM
I Dunno, you ignorant slut.
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
11:36:04 AM
Munich runs circles around the last 10 bond films.....
by Doom II
Dec 27th, 2005
11:37:00 AM
Harry - Does it not bother you that they simply made up this mov
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
11:40:27 AM
I would LOVED to see Lucas make a "real" movie next...
by Doom II
Dec 27th, 2005
11:43:46 AM
Lopan
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
11:50:14 AM
Dagan...The Munich disclaimer before the movie even begins reads
by Doom II
Dec 27th, 2005
11:53:51 AM
cantankerous
by Pumpkinsboy
Dec 27th, 2005
11:55:01 AM
cantankerous, your pure ignorance is a testament to the media bi
by I Dunno
Dec 27th, 2005
11:58:44 AM
No Surprise Here
by MarkWhittington
Dec 27th, 2005
12:01:15 PM
Oh yeah, one more request..PLEASE watch the movie BEFORE you pos
by Doom II
Dec 27th, 2005
12:04:07 PM
Cantank
by lopan
Dec 27th, 2005
12:05:37 PM
Marky Mark Whittington
by lopan
Dec 27th, 2005
12:10:24 PM
It's amazing how supposedly intelligent people completely mi
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
12:17:57 PM
DoomII
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
12:19:05 PM
The Problem is...
by MarkWhittington
Dec 27th, 2005
12:21:03 PM
The fallacy of "humanizing" Terrorists
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
12:21:49 PM
DoomII
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
12:26:07 PM
And obviously MARKWHITTINGTON is misleading and has yet to see M
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
12:26:08 PM
And to those who see no ethical issues in Revenge killing have t
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
12:31:30 PM
And further more!
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
12:35:04 PM
Actually, Mosdef-
by MarkWhittington
Dec 27th, 2005
12:38:49 PM
MOSDEF - You are assuming our actions are dictated by "revenge"
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
12:40:43 PM
In response to Dagan...
by Tremor
Dec 27th, 2005
12:47:47 PM
And a few more paranoia thrillers and something romantic.
by evolvingsensblty
Dec 27th, 2005
12:52:55 PM
Gee, I wonder why Jurrasic Park is better than Kong in your mind
by Orionsangels
Dec 27th, 2005
12:55:14 PM
Dagan, you're either hopelessly brainwashed or just trying t
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 27th, 2005
12:58:52 PM
"For the record"
by Forestal
Dec 27th, 2005
01:01:02 PM
MarkWhittington: Remember the scene where the Palestinian terror
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
01:04:18 PM
oh and MarkWhittington, RE: The "real" Avner
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
01:05:34 PM
Pumpkinsboy
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
01:06:49 PM
Spielberg has changed...
by Drexl
Dec 27th, 2005
01:08:53 PM
Mosdef...
by MarkWhittington
Dec 27th, 2005
01:20:52 PM
MarkWhittington...
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
01:42:07 PM
Moviemack - Do you have citations for what you're saying?
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
01:54:24 PM
By far one of Spielberg's best...
by tango fett
Dec 27th, 2005
02:01:57 PM
And to drive this even further off topic...
by tango fett
Dec 27th, 2005
02:08:43 PM
And finally, it's MOVIEMACK!
by tango fett
Dec 27th, 2005
02:12:12 PM
Citizen Arcane - let me answer your post...
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
02:12:59 PM
Dagan, you're a fucking moron.
by dr_dreadlocks
Dec 27th, 2005
02:14:06 PM
I dunno....when to STFU
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
02:19:27 PM
Pumpkinsboy
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
02:20:26 PM
lopan
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
02:26:17 PM
Its always easy to spot a talkback from one of Harry's revie
by Thirteen 13
Dec 27th, 2005
02:31:21 PM
I wouldn't say it was about revenge, Dagan but it sure wasn&
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 27th, 2005
02:34:53 PM
Dr. D...
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
02:35:14 PM
"JFK is a joke these days..."
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
02:35:29 PM
"JFK is a joke these days..."
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
02:37:42 PM
ah, this talkback turned into a shitstorm, just like i predicted
by newc0253
Dec 27th, 2005
02:45:59 PM
btw, i didn't realise there were so many rightwing nutjobs a
by newc0253
Dec 27th, 2005
02:47:31 PM
We like to think of those on the other side as inhuman retches o
by Fireball XL-5
Dec 27th, 2005
02:51:37 PM
"What the state of israel and the mossad did, was not revenge...
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
02:58:35 PM
Indiana Jones
by CatVutt
Dec 27th, 2005
03:01:01 PM
Citizen Arcane - you simply are wrong on the facts - I'll pr
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
03:17:51 PM
Dagan...
by Blue_Demon
Dec 27th, 2005
03:32:28 PM
a citizen of the world?
by Hate_Speech
Dec 27th, 2005
03:39:14 PM
this is a great movie, Munich
by jrbarker
Dec 27th, 2005
03:43:29 PM
"The Mossad killed only the terrorists involved with the massacr
by MOSDEF
Dec 27th, 2005
03:53:41 PM
"And I want him to make 3 movies a year. Because I think the les
by Neosamurai85
Dec 27th, 2005
04:16:48 PM
Harry's Freudian Slip
by heywood jablomie
Dec 27th, 2005
04:30:50 PM
Spielberg has changed. He forgot how to use real color in film.
by Orionsangels
Dec 27th, 2005
04:38:20 PM
an eye for an eye
by stewart
Dec 27th, 2005
04:43:50 PM
I could show you a thousand links where Bush never said Iraq had
by PurityOfEssence
Dec 27th, 2005
04:48:57 PM
Dagan, you dumbass...
by The Dubliner
Dec 27th, 2005
04:51:57 PM
Think of it as a two families living in a duplex
by cantankerous
Dec 27th, 2005
04:59:11 PM
Jurassic Park IS better than King Kong
by The Dubliner
Dec 27th, 2005
05:03:04 PM
PurityOfEssence and Stewart...
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
05:06:52 PM
Dubliner - what a revelation
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
05:12:47 PM
The mfact that both Israeli and Palestinian bombasts are claiing
by IndustryKiller
Dec 27th, 2005
05:32:09 PM
Dagan, so what are you saying...
by The Dubliner
Dec 27th, 2005
05:46:58 PM
Dagan, you can cite as many out of context quotes as you like...
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 27th, 2005
06:01:02 PM
Dagan...
by stewart
Dec 27th, 2005
06:02:09 PM
The Dubliner - No, what I'm saying is...
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
06:06:54 PM
I am reminded of the Simpsons where Homer is a food critic. He
by HypeEndsHere
Dec 27th, 2005
06:09:55 PM
yeah it is a great movie- it is the best
by watashiwadare
Dec 27th, 2005
06:11:42 PM
Why is it the libs only always condemm the west's use of vio
by JUSTICE41
Dec 27th, 2005
06:13:13 PM
eye for an eye origin?
by stewart
Dec 27th, 2005
06:13:35 PM
Fuck The Bible and all it's silly verses
by JUSTICE41
Dec 27th, 2005
06:17:56 PM
because, Justice, liberals love terrorists and hate america and
by HypeEndsHere
Dec 27th, 2005
06:19:07 PM
JUSTICE41
by stewart
Dec 27th, 2005
06:21:40 PM
Stop it, JUSTICE41, your bravery is making me hard.
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 27th, 2005
06:36:53 PM
Like I said in Quint's review: The only reason the righties
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 27th, 2005
07:03:22 PM
Well I didn't want to get this hard core but since iamnicksa
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 27th, 2005
07:16:13 PM
Best Spielberg film since....
by jagger
Dec 27th, 2005
07:40:33 PM
ONE PROBLEM WITH HARRY
by jagger
Dec 27th, 2005
07:41:36 PM
ONE PROBLEM WITH HARRY'S REVIEW
by jagger
Dec 27th, 2005
07:47:00 PM
Iamnicksaicnsn and Citizen Arcane - Bush Zionism? Uh...
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
08:08:01 PM
Hey Dagan, I just read your post on how Japan went from "one of
by Windowlicker74
Dec 27th, 2005
08:12:27 PM
Cards on the table time...
by Potsy
Dec 27th, 2005
08:14:36 PM
Furthermore, about this silly "zionist" thing...
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
08:16:21 PM
Windowlicker - the Japanese
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
08:21:30 PM
here's where my politics originate
by stewart
Dec 27th, 2005
08:57:00 PM
I'd prefer the headline...
by smallberries
Dec 27th, 2005
09:14:58 PM
history on your side..
by Windowlicker74
Dec 27th, 2005
09:23:43 PM
I mean I'm even on one of their goddamn movie-sites!
by Windowlicker74
Dec 27th, 2005
09:33:27 PM
Hey there's a PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 2 teaser up in QT.
by Gilkuliehe
Dec 27th, 2005
09:44:46 PM
Idiots
by Neutron
Dec 27th, 2005
09:54:56 PM
one question
by Windowlicker74
Dec 27th, 2005
10:00:37 PM
renovation
by Neutron
Dec 27th, 2005
10:09:44 PM
Lopan - You don't know this site...
by genro
Dec 27th, 2005
10:20:51 PM
Windowlicker74 - you're so wrong on so many points about Imp
by genro
Dec 27th, 2005
10:47:40 PM
10 directors who are better than Spielberg!
by Rasputin77
Dec 27th, 2005
11:11:21 PM
Dagan, there is no need to change your name so people think some
by Windowlicker74
Dec 27th, 2005
11:18:42 PM
One question Harry...
by DoctorWho?
Dec 27th, 2005
11:20:39 PM
Fuckin A Doctor Who, as Sam said in LOTR , some things "are wort
by krullboy
Dec 27th, 2005
11:42:37 PM
Dagan, you douche... I never specifically claimed Bush believed
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 27th, 2005
11:45:35 PM
The UN's greatest problem is that the UN Security Council do
by krullboy
Dec 27th, 2005
11:52:12 PM
Uh... Windowlicker... I am not that other guy
by Dagan
Dec 27th, 2005
11:56:58 PM
Windowlicker
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
12:05:26 AM
Bad analogy, DoctorWho?
by Potsy
Dec 28th, 2005
12:17:14 AM
iamnicksaicnsn - You act as if I can't go up and read your o
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
12:17:46 AM
I read Aaron Klein's book...Striking Back
by bigdickmcgee
Dec 28th, 2005
12:39:59 AM
I agree with Harry, Lucas should direct Indy 4!!
by Hideo Kojima
Dec 28th, 2005
12:43:43 AM
If Lucas directed Indy 4. . . . .
by krullboy
Dec 28th, 2005
12:53:10 AM
Ok Dagan I believe you. you were not that other guy.
by Windowlicker74
Dec 28th, 2005
01:11:32 AM
But what we really need to know is...
by Alonzo Mosely
Dec 28th, 2005
02:55:46 AM
Eat shit, you stupid bastard. So fine, i didn't specify har
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
03:22:41 AM
I swear to God, I've only had, maybe, one reasonable discuss
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
03:24:26 AM
Someone in Texas cannot possibly understand this film!
by Mike Nesmith
Dec 28th, 2005
03:56:52 AM
Well looks like many people are not interested in seeing terrori
by Thirteen 13
Dec 28th, 2005
05:39:46 AM
US and Israel
by EyeofPolyphemus
Dec 28th, 2005
07:21:17 AM
iamnicksaicnsn
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
07:30:20 AM
So, about that Munich, eh...
by The Dubliner
Dec 28th, 2005
07:45:13 AM
So Dagan admits that he didn't hear any of tis from his frie
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 28th, 2005
08:48:45 AM
From what I hear
by emeraldboy
Dec 28th, 2005
09:34:00 AM
anchorite...
by The Dubliner
Dec 28th, 2005
09:59:31 AM
Sure, I
by Guy Gaduois
Dec 28th, 2005
10:20:42 AM
It's funny how many of you are discussing a film you haven&#
by Doom II
Dec 28th, 2005
10:22:47 AM
in empire
by emeraldboy
Dec 28th, 2005
10:26:53 AM
It is true, some people see the creation of Israel as a fulfillm
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
10:40:36 AM
The average Israeli citizen of Arab descent has it far better in
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
10:41:37 AM
Dubliner - WRONG
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
10:41:45 AM
Cantankerous - James Watt
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
10:46:58 AM
Anchorite...that's a bloody brilliant idea. Bana as Indy wo
by R.C. the "Wise"
Dec 28th, 2005
11:23:40 AM
As far as Munich...excellent film.
by R.C. the "Wise"
Dec 28th, 2005
11:25:55 AM
GOOD or EVIL
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
11:40:51 AM
Time to chime in on you bunch of MORONS
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 28th, 2005
11:45:00 AM
cantankerous, Dagon, you're not even worth talking to
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 28th, 2005
11:59:40 AM
Citizen Arcane - I'd be happy to discuss the facts with you.
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
12:20:20 PM
Shame on Spielberg!!!
by Rant Breath
Dec 28th, 2005
12:42:30 PM
Citizen Arcane
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
12:52:45 PM
hang on happy, I'm coming
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 28th, 2005
01:14:14 PM
What does 'not bad for an austrlian film actually mean'
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 28th, 2005
01:26:29 PM
Look, a majority of the people of America (a healthy percentage,
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
01:30:07 PM
So, wow, Cantankerous, I beat you with your own article!
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
01:32:51 PM
Australian films
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
01:33:26 PM
iamnickaicnsn
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
01:38:09 PM
So are you Righties happy that Bush has been willy-nilly peaking
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
01:48:16 PM
Yes, there was contact, but it never got very far, as Osama wasn
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
01:57:51 PM
You already live in a Big Brother world.
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
02:13:06 PM
If Bush wants to hear me talk to my mom thats fine
by superzario
Dec 28th, 2005
02:13:30 PM
If we lived in such a Big Brother world before Bush became presi
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
02:25:40 PM
It's funny how some will defend ANYTHING Bush does.
by Rant Breath
Dec 28th, 2005
02:39:20 PM
If you are going to make a History
by Damer1
Dec 28th, 2005
02:42:49 PM
Not ANYTHING
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
02:48:14 PM
GWB - SUPER GENIUS!
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
02:54:08 PM
1984
by emeraldboy
Dec 28th, 2005
02:55:17 PM
ZZZZZzzzzz..........
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 28th, 2005
02:56:20 PM
Address my points. He's not acquiring foreign intelligence,
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
02:57:05 PM
The NWO and Cartoon Network
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 28th, 2005
03:15:47 PM
It's not like no one was talking about it, August PDB, anyon
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
03:18:22 PM
damn, I can't see that Cartoon Network clip for some reason,
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
03:20:41 PM
I mean, come on, the terrorists must already realize they're
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
03:23:56 PM
WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT REPUBLICANS IS THEIR HYPROCISY
by bushsux
Dec 28th, 2005
03:29:46 PM
Bush Administration isn't spying on terrorists
by bushsux
Dec 28th, 2005
03:33:20 PM
This wouldn
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
03:35:47 PM
cantankerous, Dagan, you're citing an op-ed piece from the C
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 28th, 2005
03:38:03 PM
another dolt
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
03:43:42 PM
If what he's doing is so damn legal, why get around the godd
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
03:47:22 PM
If this was the 1950's people like Cantankerous would be def
by bushsux
Dec 28th, 2005
03:53:39 PM
Maybe YOU should notice that Congress isn't in session (and
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
03:53:57 PM
Due Process, Criminal Procedure, the US Consititution, that'
by bushsux
Dec 28th, 2005
03:57:19 PM
RE: Nickelodeon & Cartoon Network
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 28th, 2005
03:57:36 PM
Bushsux
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 28th, 2005
04:12:03 PM
the difference
by smackfu
Dec 28th, 2005
04:17:08 PM
But Mr Gaius, you have to realize that they already have the pow
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
04:33:42 PM
RE: iamnicsaicnsn (Man, your handle is hard to type!)
by Mr Nice Gaius
Dec 28th, 2005
04:53:33 PM
Yes, those are also good points. He does clearly want us out of
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
05:06:23 PM
Munich
by emeraldboy
Dec 28th, 2005
05:07:28 PM
There is a book out at the moment....
by emeraldboy
Dec 28th, 2005
05:24:30 PM
bushsux, "What happened to the government needing a warrant to t
by Immortal_Fish
Dec 28th, 2005
05:52:23 PM
Bushsux and Joe McCarthy
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
06:10:14 PM
Thanks for the reply Potsy, but...
by DoctorWho?
Dec 28th, 2005
06:18:48 PM
Uh oh, that argument was already tried... and already shot down
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
06:21:10 PM
Fine cantankerous, Roosevelt conducted wireless searches. That
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
06:28:27 PM
iamafuckingidiot says: "And of course he wants to wake us up to
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
06:34:39 PM
The Constitution appears to permits Bush to do what he did,
by cantankerous
Dec 28th, 2005
06:47:09 PM
Eat shit you dirty bastard, who the fuck do you think you are?
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
06:57:28 PM
wow
by smackfu
Dec 28th, 2005
07:05:38 PM
"that argument was already tried... and already shot down"
by Immortal_Fish
Dec 28th, 2005
07:15:07 PM
cantank, spare us that "you're either with us or you're
by Rant Breath
Dec 28th, 2005
07:41:35 PM
I thought Harry loves it when people get revenge ala Kill Bill a
by Thunderballs
Dec 28th, 2005
07:48:45 PM
I love the cocksuckers on the left that can't accept the fac
by Lamerz
Dec 28th, 2005
08:05:24 PM
I thought Harry loves it when people get revenge ala Kill Bill a
by Thunderballs
Dec 28th, 2005
08:13:45 PM
For you nimrods who believe the government can't listen to y
by JUSTICE41
Dec 28th, 2005
08:14:09 PM
Echelon
by JUSTICE41
Dec 28th, 2005
08:16:14 PM
dogapeandman - I agree with you ... there are hardcore on both s
by Lamerz
Dec 28th, 2005
08:16:36 PM
Rule of thumb, If someone has to tell you what they are as in,"
by JUSTICE41
Dec 28th, 2005
08:23:11 PM
Prime example #2 ...
by Lamerz
Dec 28th, 2005
08:26:47 PM
Prime example #3 ...
by Lamerz
Dec 28th, 2005
08:34:55 PM
Um...
by Tony Mike Hall
Dec 28th, 2005
09:15:32 PM
Thanks for posting that web page, Justice
by Tony Mike Hall
Dec 28th, 2005
09:19:05 PM
Immortal_Fish, true, it is fishy (not a pun, heh). Why did the
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
09:49:08 PM
and look Lamerz, yes, Saddam fucked with the UN, but we still ha
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
09:57:49 PM
Basic Facts
by Neutron
Dec 28th, 2005
10:01:58 PM
Jesus
by Neutron
Dec 28th, 2005
10:09:11 PM
Look, fine, the UN is fucked up, no one is disputing that.
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
10:19:05 PM
And as for Rockefeller...
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
10:24:45 PM
Tony Mike Hall this way no one has any excuse for not having the
by JUSTICE41
Dec 28th, 2005
10:26:24 PM
Any asshole can have clear 20/20 vision after the fact
by JUSTICE41
Dec 28th, 2005
10:31:58 PM
If he's such an ass, then it's clear no one should have
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 28th, 2005
10:47:13 PM
I think it's fair to say.....
by GingerTwit
Dec 28th, 2005
11:01:27 PM
As for the UN
by GingerTwit
Dec 28th, 2005
11:16:29 PM
Immortal Fish, because Native American Republicans are now En Vo
by bushsux
Dec 28th, 2005
11:35:35 PM
IF WE HAD LISTENED TO THE UN, OVER 2,000 AMERICAN SERVICEMEMBERS
by bushsux
Dec 28th, 2005
11:37:23 PM
Yeah Ginger twit, we use Zyklon B on our own people all the time
by krullboy
Dec 28th, 2005
11:41:17 PM
Yes, Bushsux - maybe...
by Dagan
Dec 28th, 2005
11:55:19 PM
Dagan, are you inbred or something?
by admkirk
Dec 29th, 2005
12:10:09 AM
Admkirk - you're just exposing your side
by Dagan
Dec 29th, 2005
12:15:14 AM
OK DAGAN, HERE IS A FACT: SADDAM HUSSEIN HAD STOCKPILES OF CHEMI
by admkirk
Dec 29th, 2005
12:21:37 AM
The UN may look like a great idea on paper GINGERTWIT...
by DoctorWho?
Dec 29th, 2005
12:37:15 AM
hey admkirk, here's an idea.......
by Kai_Mah'gra
Dec 29th, 2005
04:38:55 AM
So Happy...... you were going to tell me something?
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 29th, 2005
05:06:01 AM
"I want my sane back. I want some integrity."
by DocPazuzu
Dec 29th, 2005
05:18:09 AM
A good start for me...
by GingerTwit
Dec 29th, 2005
06:13:15 AM
So, anyway...is Munich any good?
by The Dubliner
Dec 29th, 2005
06:23:56 AM
Munich?
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
07:39:31 AM
I'd love to hear responces to this....
by GingerTwit
Dec 29th, 2005
08:05:57 AM
Here's a response...
by The Dubliner
Dec 29th, 2005
08:18:01 AM
Admkirk - "Lies"? Where? - and Bongwater - I'll answer you
by Dagan
Dec 29th, 2005
08:39:47 AM
Weather you
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
08:49:53 AM
You know what I dread?
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 29th, 2005
08:59:29 AM
Did that even make sence?
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 29th, 2005
09:04:47 AM
"Faster and more intense." How true...
by Wonder Man
Dec 29th, 2005
09:16:11 AM
Out of his next 3....
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 29th, 2005
09:54:01 AM
I'm late to rejoining the party but I just had to make one m
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 29th, 2005
10:02:28 AM
Uh, if the
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
10:55:17 AM
I hate to bear the bad news to you conservatives but the Bush Ad
by bushsux
Dec 29th, 2005
11:49:55 AM
Yeah, Bush has huge BALLS.
by Rant Breath
Dec 29th, 2005
11:53:06 AM
that's the spirit, nice review
by drjones
Dec 29th, 2005
11:54:43 AM
cantankerous, why aren't you signing up for active duty?
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 29th, 2005
12:08:40 PM
Happy Happy joy joy! where are you! I hate that!
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 29th, 2005
12:13:52 PM
Iraq is doing far better than the media or you are giving it cre
by Dagan
Dec 29th, 2005
12:33:26 PM
What wasn't I privy to, cantankerous?
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 29th, 2005
12:40:31 PM
Did IQ
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
12:41:45 PM
Bush flew one of the most dangerous fighter interceptors during
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
12:42:59 PM
I think cantankerous has me on his ignore list
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 29th, 2005
12:55:34 PM
"How exactly does invading a country, virtually destroying every
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
12:59:43 PM
BendersShinyAss - You are incredibly off base; so much so I almo
by Dagan
Dec 29th, 2005
12:59:52 PM
BendersShinyAss,
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
01:00:45 PM
How can you argue your side is better when most of you pansy ass
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 29th, 2005
01:01:20 PM
WHAT I LOVE ABOUT CANTANKEROUS AND DAGAN ARE THEIR COMPLETE LACK
by bushsux
Dec 29th, 2005
01:01:49 PM
I didn
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
01:06:18 PM
BendersShinyAss, People like Cantankerous are too scared to figh
by bushsux
Dec 29th, 2005
01:07:46 PM
Bushsux - you don't even believe our own soldiers
by Dagan
Dec 29th, 2005
01:16:38 PM
The T-72 is a Soviet main battle tank designed to fight
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
01:23:49 PM
iamnicksaicnsn
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
01:46:03 PM
"And CANTANKEROUS. How can you seriously support any country ach
by cantankerous
Dec 29th, 2005
01:57:27 PM
Bush will regret the failure of the raodmap for peace!
by emeraldboy
Dec 29th, 2005
02:19:14 PM
Victory? You mean the kind where it's our way or you're
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 29th, 2005
03:18:10 PM
iamnicksaicnsn - 70% + "want us out"? Where the hell are you ge
by Dagan
Dec 29th, 2005
03:35:40 PM
Other results from the same poll.
by Rant Breath
Dec 29th, 2005
03:50:56 PM
I got those numbers from Representative John Murtha
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 29th, 2005
03:54:57 PM
Thanks Rant Breath, I knew there was a reason he left out the UR
by iamnicksaicnsn
Dec 29th, 2005
05:21:22 PM
trying to sway someone politically these days is akin to trying
by HypeEndsHere
Dec 29th, 2005
05:24:10 PM
from the ABC news Poll
by bigdickmcgee
Dec 29th, 2005
06:26:53 PM
the link for the article
by bigdickmcgee
Dec 29th, 2005
06:28:54 PM
Hey Dagan...that iamnicksaicnsn - 70% + "want us out"? poll is a
by DoctorWho?
Dec 29th, 2005
08:57:09 PM
Anchorite...
by DoctorWho?
Dec 29th, 2005
08:58:45 PM
"I got those numbers from Representative John Murtha"
by DoctorWho?
Dec 29th, 2005
09:00:02 PM
Munich
by SoonerSean
Dec 29th, 2005
09:11:01 PM
Hey Goat - where was Billy Boy when Bush was "protecting the ski
by Lamerz
Dec 29th, 2005
11:33:23 PM
... and the infamous poll above Rant Breath's poll was condu
by Lamerz
Dec 29th, 2005
11:39:40 PM
The "Rant Breath's poll" part in the last title should have
by Lamerz
Dec 29th, 2005
11:41:54 PM
BendersAss - "UN Diplomacy was working. No one wanted war." Hol
by Lamerz
Dec 29th, 2005
11:53:02 PM
Can everyone do me a favour and stop talking
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 30th, 2005
03:02:19 AM
People who come to AIN'T IT COOL for political debates are c
by Mike Nesmith
Dec 30th, 2005
06:28:13 AM
She now that's interesting
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 30th, 2005
08:32:15 AM
fcuk spell checking
by BendersShinyAss
Dec 30th, 2005
09:33:42 AM
Rant Breath: It's funny how some will attack ANYTHING Bush d
by KennyKilo
Dec 30th, 2005
10:29:41 AM
Why do you hate our freedom?
by smackfu
Dec 30th, 2005
11:17:06 AM
So smackfu, given the choice between George Bush and Osama Bin L
by cantankerous
Dec 30th, 2005
01:19:04 PM
Great Movie
by thefutureoffilm
Dec 30th, 2005
06:03:18 PM
guano
by smackfu
Dec 30th, 2005
06:09:22 PM
Batshit crazy -
by cantankerous
Dec 31st, 2005
09:40:23 AM
schooling #1
by smackfu
Dec 31st, 2005
12:09:48 PM
schooling #2
by smackfu
Dec 31st, 2005
12:20:39 PM
hypocrite
by smackfu
Dec 31st, 2005
12:43:32 PM
"Iraq under Saddam was a secular country, he oppressed muslims"
by bigdickmcgee
Dec 31st, 2005
04:25:59 PM
arguing with a mental patient...
by cantankerous
Dec 31st, 2005
04:43:50 PM
And what reason do you have for not answering my points, cantank
by Citizen Arcane
Dec 31st, 2005
05:14:48 PM
bigdickmcgee
by smackfu
Jan 1st, 2006
12:50:21 AM
Cantankerous
by smackfu
Jan 1st, 2006
12:54:11 AM
we get it, you're an anti-semite....
by bigdickmcgee
Jan 1st, 2006
03:09:11 AM
Shee-yat Ringbearer9...
by BurnHollywood
Jan 1st, 2006
09:40:04 AM
Ring..
by bigdickmcgee
Jan 1st, 2006
09:46:44 AM
Are you saying that to be a true Christian you have to be a paci
by cantankerous
Jan 1st, 2006
10:11:22 AM
Citizen Arcane.
by cantankerous
Jan 1st, 2006
10:18:17 AM
Ringbearer9
by DocPazuzu
Jan 1st, 2006
12:16:07 PM
Oh yeah, Palestineins aren
by cantankerous
Jan 1st, 2006
01:45:19 PM
Cantankerous, you've got Hitler all Ass backwards
by GingerTwit
Jan 1st, 2006
02:07:21 PM
'you
by GingerTwit
Jan 1st, 2006
02:32:13 PM
'I haven't run into many people who actually argue that
by GingerTwit
Jan 1st, 2006
02:37:25 PM
Ringbearer9, you have no idea what you are talking about.
by cantankerous
Jan 1st, 2006
03:55:37 PM
Pacifists, our enemies love them.
by cantankerous
Jan 1st, 2006
04:06:11 PM
bushsux, "because Native American Republicans are now En Vogue"
by Immortal_Fish
Jan 1st, 2006
04:26:46 PM
I think Orwell said it best......
by bigdickmcgee
Jan 1st, 2006
04:36:15 PM
GingerTwit
by DocPazuzu
Jan 1st, 2006
04:45:07 PM
"Bush has killed and tortured so many fucking Iraqis, Saddam and
by DocPazuzu
Jan 1st, 2006
04:46:25 PM
Ringbearer9
by DocPazuzu
Jan 1st, 2006
04:50:24 PM
Oh and Ringbearer9...
by DocPazuzu
Jan 1st, 2006
05:03:18 PM
Pazuzu, I decided to look up 'Pacifist', just as you sug
by GingerTwit
Jan 1st, 2006
11:31:59 PM
Funny how Libs hate the killings during war Yet feel just fine k
by JUSTICE41
Jan 2nd, 2006
09:26:08 PM
Pacifism? You guys haven't a clue what a pacifist is. Ghandi
by JUSTICE41
Jan 2nd, 2006
09:30:24 PM
best work **spoiler**
by Turd Furgeson
Jan 3rd, 2006
11:37:38 PM
happyhappyjoyjoy
by smackfu
Jan 4th, 2006
12:05:26 AM
eh?
by smackfu
Jan 4th, 2006
11:48:47 AM
my father and I were driving to greaystones and he says
by emeraldboy
Jan 4th, 2006
12:46:59 PM
Bush isn't running for president again.
by JUSTICE41
Jan 4th, 2006
03:53:57 PM
SHARON SUFFERS MAJOR STROKE
by emeraldboy
Jan 4th, 2006
04:07:04 PM
Bush isn't doing 'what's right' by any stretch o
by smackfu
Jan 4th, 2006
05:06:39 PM
HOLY CRAP!
by cantankerous
Jan 4th, 2006
07:37:50 PM
Don't worry smackfu
by cantankerous
Jan 4th, 2006
07:44:49 PM
Emerald, You can be gleeful about Sharon's illness but just
by JUSTICE41
Jan 4th, 2006
08:07:31 PM
Syria and Iran will follow the example of Iraq as it progresses
by smackfu
Jan 4th, 2006
10:37:14 PM
Maybe you
by cantankerous
Jan 5th, 2006
05:11:19 PM
why do you hate us for our freedom?
by smackfu
Jan 5th, 2006
09:46:27 PM
I
by cantankerous
Jan 6th, 2006
11:38:35 AM
I'm looking forward to this, although I admit it's more
by minderbinder
Jan 7th, 2006
09:06:18 AM
OH MY FUCKING GOD
by GForce05
Jan 9th, 2006
02:08:20 AM
You make not have been the only person to click the link but you
by cantankerous
Jan 9th, 2006
09:58:38 AM
Your the gullible goof-ball Cantankerous
by GForce05
Jan 9th, 2006
03:56:07 PM
Gee GForce, that post was clear as mud
by cantankerous
Jan 10th, 2006
12:34:22 PM
Cantankerous your an idiot
by GForce05
Jan 10th, 2006
04:57:09 PM
Yep, newc0253
by skoobyx
Jan 10th, 2006
08:26:31 PM
GForce, I
by cantankerous
Jan 11th, 2006
10:31:52 AM
Cantankerous
by GForce05
Jan 11th, 2006
07:15:30 PM
So after all that you
by cantankerous
Jan 12th, 2006
02:08:56 PM
Joking? I'M DEAD SERIOUS.
by GForce05
Jan 13th, 2006
12:50:23 AM
And therein lays the problem.
by cantankerous
Jan 13th, 2006
10:03:32 AM
cantankerous
by heystantheman!
Jan 20th, 2006
06:49:56 AM
Oh the conspiracy tape
by heystantheman!
Jan 20th, 2006
06:57:44 AM
I will agree withone thing cantankerous said
by heystantheman!
Jan 20th, 2006
07:04:03 AM
oh and one more thing
by heystantheman!
Jan 20th, 2006
07:04:52 AM
If you want to drag Reagan and Bush1 into the equation,
by cantankerous
Jan 20th, 2006
03:34:28 PM
Cant take are us (whatever, its late)
by heystantheman!
Jan 20th, 2006
11:42:30 PM
Right-wing demagouges are as moronic as their left-wing counterp
by cantankerous
Jan 22nd, 2006
11:49:03 AM
but it doesn't
by heystantheman!
Jan 22nd, 2006
05:36:31 PM
I don
by cantankerous
Jan 23rd, 2006
09:34:22 AM
Yes it is, it's called voting and the law.
by heystantheman!
Jan 23rd, 2006
05:47:28 PM
The President must not violate the Constitution.
by cantankerous
Jan 24th, 2006
09:16:25 AM
now you're just quibbling
by heystantheman!
Jan 25th, 2006
02:07:50 AM
You post was a little hard to decipher
by cantankerous
Jan 25th, 2006
09:52:54 AM
Politics + Foreign Policy is of NO RELEVANCE to any of you
by Mr Bungle
Jan 26th, 2006
08:22:27 AM
AGREED.
by zarandimoviefan
Jan 27th, 2006
03:42:58 PM
Munich
by emeraldboy
Jan 28th, 2006
05:43:12 PM
My munich post extended
by emeraldboy
Jan 28th, 2006
06:58:02 PM
Bush at war
by emeraldboy
Jan 29th, 2006
09:04:28 AM
Bush always LOOKS dumb.
by cantankerous
Jan 30th, 2006
03:08:05 PM
BEST FUCKING MOVIE OF THE YEAR!!!!
by Hail
Feb 3rd, 2006
12:05:17 PM
Jewish Talk Show Host Michael Medved
by Matt S
Feb 22nd, 2006
04:36:35 PM
Jewish Outrage - USA TODAY Article
by Matt S
Feb 22nd, 2006
04:43:43 PM
Michael Lonsdale - how to steal a movie..!
by workshed
Feb 23rd, 2006
09:27:12 PM
Spielberg would do a great RAGTIME
by SeattleBuff
Mar 8th, 2006
04:31:40 AM
Another fine job!
by williamD
Mar 26th, 2006
03:38:31 PM

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