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Update from Michael Bay's camp, regarding the Optimus Prime pic!!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. The fan response to the Optimus Prime photo posted a couple days ago was massive. Considering the photo was live for only a few hours, the amount of talkback, emails and all around buzz around the internet just goes to show how big of a fan following this film has.

Michael Bay has an official site (CLICK HERE TO GO TO THE SITE) and forum there where he can talk directly to fans. The forums went a little nuts when the pic hit. I was told there was going to be some sort of official statement by Bay on this site by readers of the forums and while that hasn't happened yet, his moderator "Nelson" posted a little update that confirms the picture as real, but kind of skirts around most of the other issues. Here's the post:

Spoke to Bay this morning...

...as I said, he will post later on later regarding the designs (when I say later it could mean tonight or in a couple of days).

Among some of the stuff:

-They (Bay & Co.) are commited to maintaining total secrecy about this project until it hits the screen. We spoke of how there was no surprise factor to Peter Jackson's King Kong. You knew the whole movie ahead of time. There are some in the team who believe the audience's first peak of the robots in their normal mode should be when they sit down to watch the movie in the theater (in other words, no sneak peak of them in their normal mode in the trailers).

-Bay & crew are well aware of sites putting out BS info in orded to elicit a response from Bay & Co.

-The reasons why they went with a huge long nose truck for OP (BTW, regarding the flames, there is a context for them like Orci pointed out). Bay said they did test with flat noses (FN) for scale purposes, and the FN would only be about 20 to 25 feet tall, so they went with the biggest truck they could find: the Peterbilt. We're talking 40 to 50 foot tall robots here. The physics for these robots have to be real...aka no magically disappearing parts. Also, OP is going to have much more red than what was shown in the supposedly "leaked" photo.

-Regarding the designers... all I can say is he said they all had to be fans of the show in order to get their jobs.

-Regarding the Ludacris rumor...no, he does not have a part in TF.

"Supposedly leaked" yet still confirms the long nose and flames... and they certainly had a fit when they saw it was on this site... Strangely enough, I agree with the physics explanation, which is why I didn't freak out too bad at the long nose. I want there to be a certain degree of reality with these guys.

I also agree, to a certain degree, about KING KONG. I would have loved for them to have only hinted at KONG in the advertising and waited for the movie for us to have gotten our first, clean look at him. However, Peter Jackson had no need to prove himself to the fanbase when he made KONG. Overall, people trusted his vision of the movie icon. Bay doesn't have that luxury with the fans of TRANSFORMERS.

I really want to see Bay make his real deal statement. He can choose not to reveal one thing to the fans before the movie rolls next summer. That's his choice. The benefit of audience surprise is certainly something to consider, but he also needs to consider the negative impact of not doing anything to ease the rabid fan base's worries. The seeds of TRANSFORMERS success has to be planted now. If he's going to change up a character design, he has to show us why he's doing it. Make us understand his thought process, even if we don't agree with it. He can't just sit back and let this blow over.

The most vocal talkbackers, forum members, website owners, etc, desperately want to be supporters of a live action TRANSFORMERS movie. Unfortunately, what they are seeing doesn't work for them and if that's all they see, you'll feel the bite next summer. Non geeks will go see this because it's a huge event movie, but the geeks will be the ones that give it legs, that will come back over and over again, bringing their friends, family, etc. They're also the ones that can taint this movie with negative buzz a year out, like what's going on here.

Bay has been very kind to me in giving me access to this film. He seemed to genuinely want to speak to the fans and assure them that he has their interests at heart and will do them proud. I hope he still has that point of view now that the fans have disagreed with one of his decisions. I want him to make a badass, huge popcorny fun big budget TRANSFORMERS movie. He's certainly on the right road from what I have personally seen. I'd hate to see him stumble by messing up the details or at least messing up the way he deals with the fans.

Anyway, I'll keep an eye on Bay's message board and my ear to the tracks with my sources within Dreamworks and Paramount. Hopefully Bay himself will speak out soon and hopefully he'll have something good to say.

-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com





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first?
by phaedrus007
Jul 13th, 2006
11:18:01 PM
cool.
by phaedrus007
Jul 13th, 2006
11:18:12 PM
BOooooooooooooo
by wolack22
Jul 13th, 2006
11:20:14 PM
prestige trailer up at apple
by calcifer
Jul 13th, 2006
11:21:49 PM
More secrets to be revealed soon folks
by Orionsangels
Jul 13th, 2006
11:24:54 PM
Wish I had seen the pic before it got taken down
by quadrupletree
Jul 13th, 2006
11:27:24 PM
The geeks and fans do give these types of movies legs
by wolack22
Jul 13th, 2006
11:27:52 PM
All I Care About Is Two Words: Peter Cullen
by Hell's Cigarette
Jul 13th, 2006
11:28:27 PM
Optimus Prime is not a redneck hillbilly
by wolack22
Jul 13th, 2006
11:29:27 PM
I have the pic on my computer...
by Eberts Ghost
Jul 13th, 2006
11:31:51 PM
previz
by Optimus Mime
Jul 13th, 2006
11:32:52 PM
sigh, whatever
by Silver Shamrock
Jul 13th, 2006
11:33:07 PM
Optimus Prime voice
by movieman742
Jul 13th, 2006
11:35:45 PM
I'm going to see it.
by Dragulf
Jul 13th, 2006
11:39:18 PM
Thanks calcifer...
by veritasses
Jul 13th, 2006
11:40:03 PM
Up to my eyes in bullshit or shall I say bayshit
by SaveRobotech
Jul 13th, 2006
11:44:53 PM
So, we can't see a transformer until the movie..
by Fuzzyjefe
Jul 13th, 2006
11:46:23 PM
The Prestige trailer...chills, baby, chills!
by Hell's Cigarette
Jul 13th, 2006
11:53:34 PM
Who Do You Like Better
by SnakesOnABicycle
Jul 13th, 2006
11:55:36 PM
they tried this secrecy stuff with Godzilla
by slder78
Jul 13th, 2006
11:56:38 PM
ummm??
by seekshelter
Jul 14th, 2006
12:03:40 AM
Don't see what all the hubbub is all about...
by turk128
Jul 14th, 2006
12:04:53 AM
The size issue makes sense.
by Mr Nice Gaius
Jul 14th, 2006
12:05:52 AM
Actually...
by Cadillac Jones
Jul 14th, 2006
12:07:10 AM
peterbilt...
by seekshelter
Jul 14th, 2006
12:08:19 AM
Bay doesn't owe anyone anything
by Amadeus Zero
Jul 14th, 2006
12:08:26 AM
All flaming aside....
by Doc_Strange
Jul 14th, 2006
12:13:05 AM
That's all great and dandy....
by The Ender
Jul 14th, 2006
12:16:28 AM
Won't see the robots? BULLSHIT! The TOYS will tell all!
by MrD
Jul 14th, 2006
12:18:25 AM
Was Prime really that Big?
by cerebulon
Jul 14th, 2006
12:20:39 AM
Yes we all want this movie to be cool...
by Nabster
Jul 14th, 2006
12:23:02 AM
Bay is to Transformers what Schumacher is to Batman
by toulouse
Jul 14th, 2006
12:34:40 AM
Jesus fawking Christ...
by Mr Nice Gaius
Jul 14th, 2006
12:44:22 AM
what are you talking about??
by seekshelter
Jul 14th, 2006
12:49:03 AM
Lose the LONG NOSE!!!!
by Talkback1138
Jul 14th, 2006
12:49:50 AM
jack colby.....
by wcoop893
Jul 14th, 2006
12:59:17 AM
Seekshelter
by toulouse
Jul 14th, 2006
01:06:42 AM
i like how he refers to the pic as supposedly 'leaked'
by capitol f
Jul 14th, 2006
01:12:22 AM
Recliner of Rage
by Talkback1138
Jul 14th, 2006
01:13:45 AM
oh, and LAST!
by capitol f
Jul 14th, 2006
01:14:24 AM
This is what happens when you make MEGATRON A TANK!
by LordEnigma
Jul 14th, 2006
01:16:39 AM
repackaging is fine for collectors..
by seekshelter
Jul 14th, 2006
01:28:43 AM
That Optimus Prime Pics Hosted On Wikipedia...
by flamingrunt
Jul 14th, 2006
01:34:27 AM
Speak for yourself
by Phategod1
Jul 14th, 2006
01:38:48 AM
actually..
by capitol f
Jul 14th, 2006
01:39:37 AM
There's so many things...
by DarthStallion
Jul 14th, 2006
02:00:00 AM
thanks calcifer
by isildur29
Jul 14th, 2006
02:01:24 AM
This is absolutely hilarious...
by Durden555
Jul 14th, 2006
02:02:14 AM
what about the little tapes?
by tannermac
Jul 14th, 2006
02:12:55 AM
Fanboys arent to blame for Superman Returns
by Weapon M
Jul 14th, 2006
02:19:07 AM
Total Secrecy...
by Rybock
Jul 14th, 2006
02:21:43 AM
Optimus Crime
by Crash Crator
Jul 14th, 2006
02:31:18 AM
Transformers
by IncompetentNinja
Jul 14th, 2006
02:34:17 AM
Just seen the Prime pic....
by Sly Fox
Jul 14th, 2006
02:53:04 AM
How the hell can you NOT show Transformers?
by Gorrister
Jul 14th, 2006
03:03:31 AM
THey are full of BS! Read how to see transformer early:
by silentbobafett2
Jul 14th, 2006
03:07:31 AM
He going for ...
by Phategod1
Jul 14th, 2006
03:11:34 AM
transformers
by BadMrWonka
Jul 14th, 2006
03:15:14 AM
Maybe The Probe
by Phategod1
Jul 14th, 2006
03:16:27 AM
I... I... don't care anymore.
by nonsensical
Jul 14th, 2006
03:25:01 AM
holdyermechanicalhorsies
by smorgasborgnine
Jul 14th, 2006
03:31:09 AM
TAke a look at the pic...
by jhpiii
Jul 14th, 2006
03:44:32 AM
I brought up Thunderbirds first
by Phategod1
Jul 14th, 2006
03:47:23 AM
you did Phategod1
by jhpiii
Jul 14th, 2006
03:53:30 AM
See My fan made Clerks 2 Trailer
by Darth Evil Dead
Jul 14th, 2006
03:54:36 AM
Thanks YackBacker...
by nonsensical
Jul 14th, 2006
03:54:53 AM
That's it, fuck this movie
by photoboy
Jul 14th, 2006
03:57:32 AM
Peak = PEEK!
by Cat_Corporation
Jul 14th, 2006
04:03:52 AM
BAY - THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH
by Dolph
Jul 14th, 2006
04:04:29 AM
It looked fine to me..
by RMcD3
Jul 14th, 2006
04:09:14 AM
this flick is doomed
by Phategod1
Jul 14th, 2006
04:09:15 AM
Can anyone who is good on photoshop....
by Dolph
Jul 14th, 2006
04:14:59 AM
Fuck off Bay.
by fortheloveofgod
Jul 14th, 2006
04:17:04 AM
MRcD3 You need to look at this...
by nonsensical
Jul 14th, 2006
04:18:22 AM
Pics
by Brendon
Jul 14th, 2006
04:21:40 AM
YackBacker...
by Brendon
Jul 14th, 2006
04:40:01 AM
This project is dead to me now bring on........
by ShawnT
Jul 14th, 2006
05:18:25 AM
zz-prime in effect
by reckni
Jul 14th, 2006
05:22:53 AM
here we go again
by Lost Prophet
Jul 14th, 2006
05:24:16 AM
I Don't Know Anymore...
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
05:28:15 AM
Stop production now before Transformers is ruined!
by Alyzr'nSummerset
Jul 14th, 2006
05:35:35 AM
Bah weep granna weep ninni bong
by Dolph
Jul 14th, 2006
05:56:05 AM
Why Is The Transformers So Important Anyway?
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
05:56:56 AM
You know...I've thought some f**ked up things...
by Dolph
Jul 14th, 2006
05:59:24 AM
I Bet
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
06:01:04 AM
no- he wakes up
by Lost Prophet
Jul 14th, 2006
06:06:29 AM
No, BEFORE he wakes up..
by Dolph
Jul 14th, 2006
06:15:22 AM
Durden - yes.
by board shitlez
Jul 14th, 2006
06:33:51 AM
Geeks - film saviours!
by board shitlez
Jul 14th, 2006
06:36:12 AM
Dolph!!
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
06:38:38 AM
"aka no magically disappearing parts." Alien tech? Hi!
by Horseflesh
Jul 14th, 2006
06:53:36 AM
LOL Marko...
by Dolph
Jul 14th, 2006
06:56:00 AM
the big problem
by Cory849
Jul 14th, 2006
07:00:28 AM
Ha! that is funny but I think you missed a bit
by Lost Prophet
Jul 14th, 2006
07:01:19 AM
Space Cruiser Yamato And Robotech!!!
by MetalWater
Jul 14th, 2006
07:32:25 AM
I guess I'm the only one
by Orbots Commander
Jul 14th, 2006
07:35:33 AM
Get off the "Transformers is doomed bandwagon" already
by Jedi2dope
Jul 14th, 2006
07:46:31 AM
bumble bee pic?
by benooi77
Jul 14th, 2006
08:02:39 AM
Two word review.
by Frankenblogger
Jul 14th, 2006
08:02:58 AM
Long nose truck ?
by SuperSneaky
Jul 14th, 2006
08:05:23 AM
Bah weep granna weep ninni bong
by Phategod1
Jul 14th, 2006
08:11:25 AM
Tank
by MrNelson
Jul 14th, 2006
08:12:16 AM
The matrix has left the building
by benooi77
Jul 14th, 2006
08:14:03 AM
It's real benooi77
by ShawnT
Jul 14th, 2006
08:18:47 AM
Optimus: Sam Elliot Megatron: Frank Langella
by Declan_Swartz
Jul 14th, 2006
08:28:29 AM
Size doesn't matter
by HarriPannus
Jul 14th, 2006
08:30:19 AM
Horseflesh, re: Disappearing Parts, Alien Tech
by MrBoinfoint
Jul 14th, 2006
08:36:54 AM
CATWOMAN
by BRUTICUS
Jul 14th, 2006
08:44:44 AM
Deadpanned enough, he'll actually
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:46:55 AM
Regardless of what I've said, I've been thinking...
by MrBoinfoint
Jul 14th, 2006
08:51:38 AM
To the person who said this should have been beast wars
by rubensreviews
Jul 14th, 2006
08:57:46 AM
windows in chest
by bigdrawz
Jul 14th, 2006
08:57:49 AM
MrBounfoint
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:04:57 AM
Luscious-868
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:18:28 AM
Bay, if you must rape the image of Prime...
by YourDaddy
Jul 14th, 2006
09:19:06 AM
Bay = Hack...
by hipcheck13
Jul 14th, 2006
09:25:32 AM
What ever happened to the whole 'alien' thing?
by Grayle
Jul 14th, 2006
09:27:43 AM
Bay doesn't get it.
by BRUTICUS
Jul 14th, 2006
09:30:36 AM
Oh Yeah - One More Thing...
by hipcheck13
Jul 14th, 2006
09:30:38 AM
don't bitch about beast wars
by optimusprimeass
Jul 14th, 2006
09:35:45 AM
Um...nonsensical...?
by hipcheck13
Jul 14th, 2006
09:40:10 AM
Throw some muhfuggin' snakes in that truck.
by JackPumpkinhead
Jul 14th, 2006
09:47:40 AM
Code of a Hero?
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:48:20 AM
From OP to POS
by Darth Pookie
Jul 14th, 2006
09:51:31 AM
Emmerich/Devlin said the same thing about Godzilla
by GiggityGoo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:51:38 AM
Fuck it dude -- let's go bowling.
by Dokkalvar
Jul 14th, 2006
10:02:20 AM
Dokkalvar
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
10:13:59 AM
Yo.....Seriously...
by Traumnovelle
Jul 14th, 2006
10:14:17 AM
Shut up. Shut up all of you.
by Mr Nice Gaius
Jul 14th, 2006
10:21:16 AM
Just wondering . . .
by CreasyBear
Jul 14th, 2006
10:22:13 AM
Here's a 50 gallon drum of gasoline for this talkback..
by Banshee7
Jul 14th, 2006
10:27:33 AM
CreasyBear
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
10:32:44 AM
Transformers...
by Dr. Opticus
Jul 14th, 2006
10:33:09 AM
Someone didn't actually read what I wrote
by MrBoinfoint
Jul 14th, 2006
10:33:33 AM
This is so gay....
by Dr. Opticus
Jul 14th, 2006
10:34:11 AM
The Hoop-T-Cons
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
10:41:00 AM
Is everyone delusional?
by digital_animator
Jul 14th, 2006
10:48:48 AM
"then I think you missed the point of transformers"
by newc0253
Jul 14th, 2006
10:57:25 AM
The uncleanness fades
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
10:58:33 AM
yeah there was another Prime with a long nose...
by BRUTICUS
Jul 14th, 2006
11:06:52 AM
Clooney/Hanks/Sutherland (Optimus) Langela(Megatron)
by R.C. the "Wise"
Jul 14th, 2006
11:07:19 AM
Hey hipcheck13...
by nonsensical
Jul 14th, 2006
11:09:59 AM
Transformers as of right now
by SamBlackChvrch21
Jul 14th, 2006
11:14:30 AM
Murphy/Speilberg/Bay need only to see Supes results
by R.C. the "Wise"
Jul 14th, 2006
11:16:16 AM
sign this petition
by syco
Jul 14th, 2006
11:16:53 AM
Further more
by SamBlackChvrch21
Jul 14th, 2006
11:17:31 AM
hiding what the robots look like
by rubensreviews
Jul 14th, 2006
11:19:00 AM
BULLSHIT!!!!
by syco
Jul 14th, 2006
11:30:50 AM
flamingrunt
by BatCountry
Jul 14th, 2006
11:40:41 AM
And by the way all
by BatCountry
Jul 14th, 2006
11:46:47 AM
ive said it before and ill say it again.....
by syco
Jul 14th, 2006
11:47:46 AM
And another thing
by BatCountry
Jul 14th, 2006
11:48:50 AM
BatCountry
by BRUTICUS
Jul 14th, 2006
11:53:40 AM
If you missed any of the TF PICS...see them here.....
by misterWINKIE
Jul 14th, 2006
11:55:21 AM
Megatrons a CYBERTRONIAN JET in this movie not a TANK."
by Mr Nice Gaius
Jul 14th, 2006
11:56:15 AM
Fuck Bay, test footage on YouTube!!!!!!!!!!
by Hairy Nutsack
Jul 14th, 2006
12:00:30 PM
Nice Gaius, it's AICN. Since when...
by finky089
Jul 14th, 2006
12:01:13 PM
Why exactly is it important they be 50ft tall, not
by finky089
Jul 14th, 2006
12:03:44 PM
lets be honest with ourselves for one minute.....
by wcoop893
Jul 14th, 2006
12:06:08 PM
Calm down fanboys...
by Lost Skeleton
Jul 14th, 2006
12:10:57 PM
The big "reveal" scheduled for ComicCon
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 14th, 2006
12:14:33 PM
The Real Victims Here Are...
by ZombieSolutions
Jul 14th, 2006
12:17:47 PM
All or Nothing
by Decker71
Jul 14th, 2006
12:26:12 PM
BRUTICUS and winkie
by BatCountry
Jul 14th, 2006
12:27:43 PM
oh to be...
by Grayle
Jul 14th, 2006
12:30:20 PM
Pics of Bumblebee in both modes
by HessenRoots
Jul 14th, 2006
12:32:14 PM
How come...
by Talkback1138
Jul 14th, 2006
12:36:54 PM
Talkback1138, cause there is no spaceship sticking out
by BRUTICUS
Jul 14th, 2006
12:49:57 PM
HessenRoots...yeah you missed it
by ShawnT
Jul 14th, 2006
01:14:32 PM
Agreed on the Kong thing, it goes for most big movies.
by minderbinder
Jul 14th, 2006
01:30:11 PM
hey, zombiesolutions, if you want that Transformers dvd
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
01:30:36 PM
Decker71, re: All or Nothing
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 14th, 2006
02:04:09 PM
This won't be a movie about Transformers
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
02:51:56 PM
Umm... 5 story nuts?
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
03:02:20 PM
Optimus in Preview Footage?
by aleeminator
Jul 14th, 2006
03:17:07 PM
jack colby i guess....
by wcoop893
Jul 14th, 2006
03:17:28 PM
also, jack colby,....
by wcoop893
Jul 14th, 2006
03:19:13 PM
Aleeminator
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
03:46:56 PM
-= Live action Robotech =-
by quadrupletree
Jul 14th, 2006
04:00:03 PM
Old truckers never die.
by Turd Furgusen
Jul 14th, 2006
04:06:35 PM
Doctor Doom
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 14th, 2006
04:08:59 PM
Curious...
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
04:15:20 PM
FF vs. TF
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
04:18:02 PM
My problem with that blue and white Prime test
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
04:21:09 PM
Scale my ASS!!!
by Redrockmullet
Jul 14th, 2006
04:25:03 PM
it doesnt matter how big they were in cartoon
by wcoop893
Jul 14th, 2006
04:34:22 PM
I'll Tell You One Thing
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
04:47:48 PM
Top 2 Talkbacks
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
04:52:04 PM
Autobots Sure Have Purdy Mouths
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
04:53:17 PM
Good question
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
04:57:30 PM
Yeah yeah yeah.
by Dokkalvar
Jul 14th, 2006
05:25:42 PM
I want to see how it's going to work
by RMcD3
Jul 14th, 2006
05:41:35 PM
Bay
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
05:46:43 PM
digital_animator is exactly right.
by Atomica
Jul 14th, 2006
05:51:37 PM
Optimus wont have a face mask
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
05:58:25 PM
I can see the script, now.
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
05:59:46 PM
Were'd you hear about the face mask?
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
06:02:29 PM
Damn, moondoggy
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
06:06:51 PM
I was done with this movie...
by Frankenblogger
Jul 14th, 2006
06:10:58 PM
Optimus 5
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
06:11:14 PM
los locos...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:21:08 PM
Anyone that's taking issue with this...
by Frankenblogger
Jul 14th, 2006
06:23:42 PM
Latest News:
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
06:24:12 PM
You don't tug on Superman's cape...
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
06:27:11 PM
if were sticking to G1
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
06:28:24 PM
Porkchop Prime
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:28:25 PM
Still gonna see it. But Thenedian I don't know where I
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
06:28:46 PM
Thanks, frankenblogger,
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
06:29:34 PM
transformers is my childhood
by handsomejoe
Jul 14th, 2006
06:31:13 PM
You Wanna Summer Blockbuster Next Year?
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
06:31:58 PM
Yeah, I think the offical lawn chair group for this
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
06:32:20 PM
"Oh yeah, we reversed polarities "
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:34:38 PM
Moondoggy2u
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:36:40 PM
Awww, shit...
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
06:37:03 PM
Oh, and Handsomejoe
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:37:30 PM
MarkoOhNo
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
06:39:38 PM
Waldorf!!!! Michael Bay did one great Transformation!
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
06:41:21 PM
Ahh... '86...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:42:03 PM
Huh, what's that Statler?
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:43:18 PM
Bay Speech Leaked
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
06:43:50 PM
The problem with the flames..
by quadrupletree
Jul 14th, 2006
06:44:25 PM
How could you sleep through it?! Its a Michael Bay film
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
06:46:12 PM
And Thenedain...
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
06:46:22 PM
Bay's ComicCon speech.
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:46:44 PM
I hope hope hope Bay's at comic con so I can
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
06:47:12 PM
MST3K ain't got nothin' on us
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:48:30 PM
The Bay ComiCon Love Fest
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
06:48:57 PM
MST3K was tounge in cheek...
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
06:49:39 PM
wcoop893, "just like all of the action we will get."
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 14th, 2006
06:49:40 PM
You'll have to hug him...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:50:26 PM
To everyone telling us Fanboys to shut up
by Mace13
Jul 14th, 2006
06:51:20 PM
Transformers: The Movie
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
06:53:41 PM
Cartoon brutality
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
06:58:04 PM
The reason why the script sucks
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 14th, 2006
06:58:07 PM
From one Fanboy to others....
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
06:58:48 PM
At This Point...
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
07:01:30 PM
chiahead
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
07:03:00 PM
The Spidey talkback and TF
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:04:39 PM
Yeah, G2's dangerous territory here...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:06:34 PM
playhouse
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
07:07:08 PM
chiahead
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
07:09:58 PM
Thenedain, as per the fan thing...
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:11:01 PM
Can you say Bittorrent? Micheal Bay
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
07:11:37 PM
Modlight, yeah it's a tough one to call...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:20:24 PM
I wasnt vicious
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
07:24:03 PM
Precdent
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
07:24:38 PM
GI Joe Movie
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:29:47 PM
Yack, I can't get over the fact that the
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:31:13 PM
Playhouse
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
07:32:03 PM
The Problem with Physics...
by dopepope
Jul 14th, 2006
07:32:04 PM
Dopedope
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
07:34:02 PM
Bay and Hollywood generally speaking
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:34:13 PM
HAha we do have the touch...
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:38:41 PM
Yup. Great post, Dopedope.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:39:57 PM
Damn, dopepope....
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:40:42 PM
Superninja... Isn't that how Raimi had Spidey
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:41:00 PM
Your chair's waiting for ya, Modlight...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:41:57 PM
The Transformers...
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
07:42:20 PM
Speaking of Godzilla, whats with those horrid Doritos
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:44:58 PM
and for the record, playhouse...
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
07:45:51 PM
Thendain, cool!
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:45:57 PM
Thenedain, is it a low to the ground beach chair?
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:46:26 PM
chiahead
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
07:47:15 PM
Perfect point, Superninja
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:48:26 PM
Of course Bay is crass, have you ever seen
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:49:02 PM
If you really Want to Complain.........
by SamBlackChvrch21
Jul 14th, 2006
07:49:15 PM
indeed...
by dopepope
Jul 14th, 2006
07:49:19 PM
Modlight
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
07:51:06 PM
SuperNinja glad to see you back
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
07:51:38 PM
Another reason the script sucks
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:51:42 PM
The Reference, chiahead
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
07:51:42 PM
Superninja's Black Cauldron
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:52:52 PM
Hiya Phate.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:52:59 PM
Moddy, it'll be a low chair just for you...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:53:41 PM
I believe it was the shambling undead that
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:53:52 PM
Good Point, SamBlackChvrch21
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
07:54:16 PM
Superninja, for a minute I thought you were
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:55:43 PM

by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:56:24 PM
Sorry Chiahead
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
07:57:16 PM
Class
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
07:57:41 PM
What bothers me is that a Transformer would
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
07:57:47 PM
No, Michael Bay still mentally lives in the 80s
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
07:57:48 PM
Modlight, no!!
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
07:58:24 PM
America's Godzilla LOOKED great...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:00:07 PM
wouldn't him being in the 80's be a good thing?
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:00:20 PM
Apparently there is this whole backstory
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:00:37 PM
Playhouse-
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
08:00:40 PM
Thenadian
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
08:02:51 PM
Transformers for sale
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:03:00 PM
It's All Good, chiahead...
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
08:03:35 PM
Modlight, that only works if you are not trying
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:04:15 PM
oh Careful Ninja, you're gettin into that politics zone
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:04:29 PM
now that I got that out
by handsomejoe
Jul 14th, 2006
08:05:30 PM
As excited as I am I doubt this movie will be timeless
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:06:39 PM
Welcome to the Dark Side, Moddy
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:08:00 PM
Some of you guys forget....
by Doc_Strange
Jul 14th, 2006
08:08:06 PM
You know what I mean though, right?
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:08:59 PM
Superninja
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
08:09:38 PM
Sold
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
08:09:58 PM
Yes, Doc, I remember that quite well.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:10:08 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:10:56 PM
Ari Gold, Playhouse and Thenedain
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
08:11:59 PM

by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:12:08 PM
THIS PUPPY IS GONNA SUCK!!!!!
by kdoc13
Jul 14th, 2006
08:12:14 PM
Forget it? Hell no, I own it!
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:12:27 PM
I am not talking about the hero's journey
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:12:40 PM
Prime's Resurrection
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
08:12:45 PM
Also, the issue is once they find the
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:14:39 PM
stupid fingers.... anyways, I agree with you Superninja
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:15:17 PM
Missing Parts
by kdoc13
Jul 14th, 2006
08:16:21 PM
I saw Spiderman 2 all that summer...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:17:34 PM
Optimus Parts
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
08:18:14 PM
Scene from Bay's TF
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:20:54 PM
Missing parts and the Masterpiece Prime
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:21:21 PM
Everybody needs to accept...
by helper_monkey
Jul 14th, 2006
08:21:29 PM
Ohhh yeaaahh... the Core....
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:24:32 PM
Avi Arad just said that he is already planning a reboot
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:24:55 PM
I had forgotten this was written by those guys.
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:27:35 PM
Doc
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
08:28:02 PM
Bay also needs to remember that Prime
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:28:31 PM
Umm actually.......
by Doc_Strange
Jul 14th, 2006
08:29:19 PM
Hmmm.....I never saw that episode. Maybe
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:31:34 PM
Return of Optimus Prime
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
08:33:07 PM
Dude... you made me shed a tear there...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:33:21 PM
They were in the US
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:35:25 PM
Hey, who's in my lawn chair? Someone get me a beer...
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
08:35:27 PM
It's actually a two parter, superninja
by Doc_Strange
Jul 14th, 2006
08:35:51 PM
That Zombie prime was one of the best
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
08:38:23 PM
It was a 2 parter
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
08:38:38 PM
Moondoggy, I thought about that...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:39:08 PM
It's ringing a bell. I seem to remember
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:41:54 PM
Oh yeah, phategod
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
08:42:48 PM
you guys are going to ruin the movie before you see it
by magnum raptor
Jul 14th, 2006
08:44:00 PM
How about what they did to Brawn
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
08:44:42 PM
Sorry to disapoint, Modlight...
by PapaVader
Jul 14th, 2006
08:45:00 PM
Iron Hide died so harshly
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:45:22 PM
Superninja
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
08:45:38 PM
No, magnum raptor. All you are doing is
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:46:39 PM

by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
08:49:20 PM
Of course there are examples of the object
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:52:19 PM
Quest based movies are good...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:52:48 PM
Magnum--one flaw in that logic
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
08:53:23 PM
Prince Adam's mother is an Earth Astronaut.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:54:08 PM
Phategod2
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:54:28 PM
i know. vader. but a guy can hope right?!
by modlight
Jul 14th, 2006
08:54:39 PM
See, magnum, in the cartoons, it was ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
08:55:03 PM
My bad
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
08:55:04 PM
I thought the love story with King Randor and Queen
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:57:10 PM
moondoggy, that is the best point so far
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
08:59:20 PM
A note about Doc Ock in Spidey 2
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:00:32 PM
Transformers: The Movie
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:05:26 PM
I can spot an 80's refugee a mile away
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:08:43 PM
and thus, Bay's film truly is Gobots The Movie
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:11:04 PM
GoBots
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
09:11:40 PM
Oops
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:12:40 PM
I attributed the fact the Decepticon
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
09:13:41 PM
ModLight, Usualy I tend to think like you...
by PapaVader
Jul 14th, 2006
09:15:30 PM
MOTU was Kitschy Fun
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
09:17:16 PM
Same here, Phate
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:18:09 PM
Yeah, phategod, that was pretty sad
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:18:51 PM
vacariously through, not to. duhhhhh.
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:20:37 PM
I still watch MotU
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:20:49 PM
GoBots
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:21:18 PM
Gotta Agree
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
09:23:10 PM
Marko--Crasher still looks pretty bad.
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:23:19 PM
Michael Bay must be stopped, no matter the cost!
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:24:24 PM
Yeah, playhouse
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:25:39 PM
You Want a Transforming Nightmare...
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
09:25:43 PM
Climax
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
09:27:18 PM
That Megatron's cool looking...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:27:45 PM
Look, thenedain, I aint saying I'm prime or nothing
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:27:50 PM
Masters of the Universe
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:29:17 PM
Sounds good, Moondoggy
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:30:17 PM
Nobody takes pot shots at Lubic!
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:31:33 PM
Playhouse
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:31:36 PM
Me too Thenedian
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
09:32:38 PM
Ba weep gra na weep ni ni bong
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:33:58 PM
Cars
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:36:43 PM
Thenedain
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:39:34 PM
i disagree with everything said above
by teddanson37
Jul 14th, 2006
09:39:40 PM
No worries, mark
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:40:53 PM
The Alternators cars are pretty cool...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:41:21 PM
A Lancia
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
09:42:50 PM
MarkoOhNo you didn't
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:43:36 PM
Huh...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:45:22 PM
Alternators
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
09:45:37 PM
He-Man would need to be cheezy.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
09:45:40 PM
Honestly, I could live without anything after G1
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
09:48:26 PM
I went into kong without any spoilers of any kind
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:48:40 PM
Playhouse
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:49:47 PM
Bay's Been Threatened...
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
09:50:27 PM
He Grimlock king!
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:51:52 PM
Not that Kong was a horrible movie
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
09:52:27 PM
Moondoggy, you are right about Kong.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
09:53:15 PM
Friend find, look behind.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
09:54:27 PM
Thenedain
by Playhouse
Jul 14th, 2006
09:55:02 PM
Anyway, I don't think Jackson does
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
09:57:36 PM
Sucky...
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
09:58:27 PM
Or Eight Legged Freaks.
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
09:58:58 PM
Headmasters
by Thenedain
Jul 14th, 2006
10:06:09 PM
Anybody else ever notice...
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
10:07:31 PM
Transformers In Japan
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 14th, 2006
10:10:17 PM
well, normally I'd agree with you, marko
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
10:11:11 PM
Prime goaded Megatron all the time in
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
10:12:10 PM
nonsensical is preaching (in top 1/3 of talkback)
by toulouse
Jul 14th, 2006
10:13:07 PM
sure you can, toulouse
by moondoggy2u
Jul 14th, 2006
10:14:43 PM
Megatron is kind of a diva.
by superninja
Jul 14th, 2006
10:17:00 PM
What is Bay's Big announcement at comicon
by Phategod2
Jul 14th, 2006
10:19:26 PM
Knight Rider 2000
by Talkback1138
Jul 14th, 2006
11:14:20 PM
MarkoOhNo
by chiahead
Jul 14th, 2006
11:26:25 PM
They sould dump Bay for these guys...
by MCMLXXVI
Jul 14th, 2006
11:44:45 PM
Masterpiece Prime
by Phategod1
Jul 14th, 2006
11:55:00 PM
Like it or not, Bay's as good as it gets
by Neo Zeed
Jul 15th, 2006
12:49:56 AM
Cullen! Cullen! Cullen!
by superninja
Jul 15th, 2006
12:57:09 AM
looks good to me
by magnum raptor
Jul 15th, 2006
01:10:31 AM
HAHAHA@Neo Zeed
by dopepope
Jul 15th, 2006
01:10:36 AM
What This Movie Needs...
by Playhouse
Jul 15th, 2006
01:19:42 AM
SDCC.....
by Hairy Nutsack
Jul 15th, 2006
02:06:43 AM
Hope
by Phategod1
Jul 15th, 2006
02:15:39 AM
RE: MarkoOhNo: Headmasters
by kdoc13
Jul 15th, 2006
02:28:56 AM
More Than Meets The Spy!
by Crash Crator
Jul 15th, 2006
02:36:29 AM
Nonsensical - Trip to Boston...?
by hipcheck13
Jul 15th, 2006
03:44:41 AM
The real Optimus
by MCMLXXVI
Jul 15th, 2006
04:18:40 AM
Here's that Optimus 'Flames' pic. Ugh
by Ghostball
Jul 15th, 2006
06:59:22 AM
Lol@ more unicorns
by moondoggy2u
Jul 15th, 2006
07:37:54 AM
Bryan Singer as director?!
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 15th, 2006
10:07:50 AM
Bay owes the fans...
by BayouWilly
Jul 15th, 2006
01:05:00 PM
Thank you BayouWilly I mean Michael Bay...
by spectrebeeyatch
Jul 15th, 2006
01:18:22 PM
I guess you're right. If Bay doesn't want us to
by superninja
Jul 15th, 2006
01:27:47 PM
And I'm not talking about trailers, which
by superninja
Jul 15th, 2006
01:30:46 PM
Yack, thanks for getting my whole arguement
by superninja
Jul 15th, 2006
01:39:28 PM
It's kind of sad, but it seems like a lot
by superninja
Jul 15th, 2006
02:52:04 PM
The reason bay does not want to shot any transformers
by Phategod2
Jul 15th, 2006
02:59:22 PM
Yack, not to suggest it's a perfect
by superninja
Jul 15th, 2006
03:16:09 PM
noteworthy
by slkboxrman
Jul 15th, 2006
04:33:30 PM
noteworthy?
by Phategod2
Jul 15th, 2006
04:37:29 PM
Does anyone else get the feeling...
by Kurutteru Yatsu
Jul 15th, 2006
05:37:18 PM
Phategod2: Check out his Prime too
by Thenedain
Jul 15th, 2006
05:46:31 PM
Oooh... good one Hipcheck13... BURN!
by nonsensical
Jul 15th, 2006
05:46:36 PM
I can't wait for it to be released
by Thenedain
Jul 15th, 2006
06:10:16 PM
Thanks for the tip, Yack!
by Thenedain
Jul 15th, 2006
06:13:16 PM
Kurutteru Yatsu
by Immortal_Fish
Jul 15th, 2006
07:34:40 PM
Masterpiece Fucking Awesome
by Phategod2
Jul 15th, 2006
07:51:16 PM
Masterpiece Starscream
by Playhouse
Jul 15th, 2006
09:28:32 PM
Do They?
by Playhouse
Jul 16th, 2006
03:15:29 AM
Cool Beans
by Playhouse
Jul 16th, 2006
09:16:40 AM
It's ok, Playhouse
by Thenedain
Jul 16th, 2006
09:27:14 AM
Nostalgia is expensive.....
by Hairy Nutsack
Jul 16th, 2006
12:58:45 PM
I only wish...
by Thenedain
Jul 16th, 2006
01:37:57 PM
Monster?!?!?
by Hairy Nutsack
Jul 16th, 2006
03:31:25 PM
I know why optimus has flames!!!!
by slappy jones
Jul 16th, 2006
03:47:07 PM
Sorry Talk Backers, I'm siding with "Suits" on this one
by ganymede2010
Jul 16th, 2006
06:47:16 PM
ganymede
by Phategod1
Jul 16th, 2006
07:04:10 PM
I smell mulch and/or fertilizer......
by Hairy Nutsack
Jul 16th, 2006
07:30:39 PM
why stop with painted flames???
by slappy jones
Jul 16th, 2006
09:43:08 PM
I
by jegoing74
Jul 17th, 2006
12:03:49 AM
Robot Skeletons
by jegoing74
Jul 17th, 2006
12:12:11 AM
Flames = Bad
by YourDaddy
Jul 17th, 2006
07:57:34 AM
Not run off, Mace...
by Childe Roland
Jul 17th, 2006
09:46:45 AM
Hillbilly Prime.....
by Hairy Nutsack
Jul 17th, 2006
11:51:58 AM
Phategod1!
by ganymede2010
Jul 17th, 2006
01:54:52 PM
Phategod1!
by ganymede2010
Jul 17th, 2006
01:58:23 PM
It is a big joke to them....
by Hairy Nutsack
Jul 17th, 2006
04:17:45 PM
this would look better
by juggalotoonfreak
Jul 17th, 2006
06:16:35 PM
There is nothing wrong with magically disappearing bits
by LordSoth
Jul 17th, 2006
07:21:35 PM
I wonder how strong
by Phategod2
Jul 17th, 2006
07:57:06 PM
Bay = Douche
by Phategod1
Jul 18th, 2006
12:59:26 AM
Fuck this film!
by photoboy
Jul 18th, 2006
02:31:30 AM
this is all Michael Bay had to buy...
by zvirbulite
Jul 19th, 2006
09:38:04 AM
Transformers Is Just His Stepping Stone
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 20th, 2006
03:06:13 AM
TF Movie Pisstake
by LittleDudes
Jul 20th, 2006
03:06:35 AM
What I Didn't Know About Michael Bay
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 20th, 2006
07:36:42 PM
Oh Good God NO!
by MarkoOhNo
Jul 20th, 2006
07:46:17 PM
Its all about MONEY
by Daimon
Jul 27th, 2006
09:12:52 PM

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