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Regarding Heath's work as The Joker in THE DARK KNIGHT

So no Oliver Reed floating head? by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:26:47 PM
That's a relief
Ok by Aphex Twin	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:27:02 PM
In truth this is the least of my worries regarding his death.
FIRST by KingMong	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:27:04 PM
R.I.P
Should be a fitting tribute by Skin26	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:27:31 PM
Knock it out the park heath!!!
NOT by KingMong	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:27:39 PM
R.I.P
I look foward to his final performance by phaedrus007	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:27:47 PM
It's a sad story, but at least we still have what could be his best work to come.
Yeah, they should dedicate it to him. by skywalkerfamily	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:28:23 PM
But if it's an end credit it will be creepy if Joker dies in the movie
Lohan and Paris by samsquanch	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:28:34 PM
are alive and well out there somwhere.
This Movie will be a great tribute by Virtual Satyr	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:29:17 PM
Heath's acting will shine.
If you're gonna go..Go with a smile. by Jugdish	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:30:00 PM
RIP Brother
That was the final joke by Gd00	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:30:52 PM
If this should turn out just the half of what it seems (an excellent performance that is) well, the final joke is on us. He will be missed.
Is this really all you're worried about at this point? by JackIsLost	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:30:54 PM
I mean, it's just a movie. Does this news make Heath's death LESS tragic? My question is--is it possible Heath was on drugs while acting as the Joker? And if so, will I be able to watch THE DARK KNIGHT without feeling really wierd?
I didn't really respect the man much... by vezner2007	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:31:04 PM
but I will say RIP nonetheless. It's always sad to see a life cut short like this. I will watch The Dark Knight and remember him for his positive attributes.
i like batman too but ... by law04230	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:32:19 PM
give it a rest with worrying about the damn movie. it's just a film, it was just a job. get some perspective. we can worry this stuff over later. 'too soon!' no shit
It'll be interesting to see the reviews by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:32:56 PM
I suspect there will be a lot of eggshells walked on
BTW, there are two talkbacks by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:34:00 PM
This was a good idea of Harry's. We have one talkback to pay our respects, and another (this one) to discuss the impact on the movie. There's no reason we can't have both.
Talk about weird by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:36:41 PM
Just had a Why So Serious? ad on the right. Might want to talk to the site managers, Harry.
it's just a movie by Halfbreedqueen	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:37:47 PM
really. it is. a sequel comic book movie at that too. no matter how good it is - remember that.
He was a damn good artist. by Stereotypical Evil Archer	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:38:08 PM
I hope it wasn't drugs, but it must've been.
Of course we have to discuss the movie by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:38:20 PM
We can't let the terrorists win
How can it impact the movie by skywalkerfamily	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:38:29 PM
It's done filming, so the only thing of concern is how it does at the box office. It will either flop or be a success. There's now 2 deaths associated with this movie.
Well, good. by WillowFan2001	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:39:05 PM
I'm really happy for your sake that even though a man is dead, you'll still be able to enjoy your piece of art just the way you want it. :::shakes head::: Jesus Christ, man.
He's informing us that his performance will be 100% Heath by Kurzinski Valentine	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:39:54 PM
Which is a respectable thing to do. It wouldn't be the same with some dubbed-in voice pasted in there. I'll see it more than once in theatres out of respect.
APHEX TWIN wtf? by FlyinHawaiian	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:40:02 PM
"In truth this is the least of my worries regarding his death." Then what's your biggest concern? Did you know Heath? No, you didn't. It's a big worry for me, because atleast we'll get to see Heath throw down one more great performance, complete, by him.
R.I.P by --- Emperor ---	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:42:00 PM
I can't help but feel for his family and friends...He was quite popular here in australia...Never cared much for his movies, but I was certainly (still am) looking forward to his Joker. He was simply too young to die. Goodbye Mister Ledger.
BROKEBACK BOOT HILL by spearsi	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:42:17 PM

blech people by troutpencil	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:42:30 PM
What would happen to Batman occurred to everybody at once, everyone wants to know. But of course they're afraid to bring it up. Loose your fetish for the moral highroad, for god's sake.
it's won't be weird to watch the movie by Rupee88	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:42:34 PM
Do you watch a movie from the 40s or 50s and is it "weird" that most or all of the actors are dead?
Wait, who else died from TDK? by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:42:50 PM
I mean, besides Katie Holmes' career?
Maybe it was a fanboy... by Tourist	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:43:12 PM
...Who offed him. Hoping for a re-cast for the next flick.
A stuntman died when they were filming by skywalkerfamily	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:43:45 PM
a scene where a car explodes.
Unexpected to say the least... by Oldnewbie	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:44:06 PM
Of all of the actors in young Hollywood today, I cannot think of someone less likey to be found dead in a NY apartment; a bottle of sleeping pills by his side. While he wasn’t a major star, his upcoming performace as the Joker in “The Dark Knight” was rumored to be a star making turn. If I recall correctly, a few weeks ago director Chris Nolan commented on Heath saying that becoming the Joker for him was a deep process that made him face some dark sides of himself… … maybe too dark…
thx skywalkerfamily by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:44:30 PM
Oh right, I remember that now
The stuntman died during a test-run, not filming. by Kurzinski Valentine	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:44:33 PM
get it right.
CAUSE IF HE WASN'T DONE A BELA LUGOSI CAPE OVER THE JOKER'S FACE by spearsi	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:44:38 PM

Right now there is a fucking"Why so serious" ad.. by travis-dane	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:45:06 PM
on my sidebar of AICN "powered by google"!SHIT!thats fucked up.
good news? by hippolyta	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:45:22 PM
I'm sad to be relieved by this. But we'll never know what could have been.
Nicholson is happy by Budkilmer	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:47:03 PM
Looks like he'll be playing the Joker in the third movie.
That bites by Kentucky Colonel	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:48:19 PM
I mean, it really really bites...
That Sucks by kevinwillis.net	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:48:44 PM
I wasn't a big fan of Ledger's work, but he was looking to turn out some good stuff and he had a whole lot to live for. That just sucks, for him and his family. Rest in peace, Heath, and God bless.
In a few months there will be dvd packs of all ledger's films by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:50:11 PM
Fucking vultures!!!!
i'm sorry but all of u people who say that u dont care about the by MajorTierce79	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:50:22 PM
No one here knew the guy, all u knew were his movies, and ur an hypocrite if you say that when u heard the news you didnt think about the dark knight status.
Gilliam has no luck by aversiontherapy2	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:53:33 PM

WB will milk his death and it will pay off. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:54:18 PM
The Dark Knight WILL be the biggest movie of 2008. It was already going to be a huge box success but with the death of one of the main actors there is no question that Warners will play the douche bag move and milk his death to sell movie tickets turning it into a cash cow. A demographic of movie goers that may have stayed away from the movie will go out of the curiosity. The saving grace in all this of course is that it will introduce Heath's talent to a whole new fan base because of his death. The sad part is that new fan base only has a handful of movies of his short lived career to look back on.
Best Actor Oscar 2009 by rhine1784	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:54:29 PM
The joke will be on the academy when they will have to nominate him for what will be he best yet final performance in The Dark Knight. Who will be the Joker in the next Batman movie???
Apparently he OD'd on sleeping pills... by JackIsLost	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:55:09 PM
According to what I read on batman-on-film.com so probably not actually doing drugs while acting. Yeah, it will be nice to see him give what I am sure will be a great performance and sad to think there will be no more. I think the best praise I can give to Ledger is that from the trailer alone, his work as the Joker appears to be iconic and brilliant. I now hope Christopher Nolan killed off the Joker at the end of THE DARK KNIGHT, b/c it's hard to imagine another actor matching his work. RIP Heath.
rhine1784, no one will be the joker. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:55:37 PM
I have a feeling with Nolan at the helm right now that this will be the last Joker on screen for quite some time. At least 10 more years.
THE DARK KNIGHT WAS CURSED!!!!! by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:58:04 PM
- THE STUNTMAN DEATH - EXPLOSIONS GOING WRONG - ACCIDENTS ON SET - CHINESE WATER INFECTED BY (I DON'T KNOW BY WHAT) - HEATH'S DEATH COME ON!!!
I WOULD IMAGINE by BurgerTime	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:58:23 PM
That if there are any reshoots to do, Nolan might either cut around his performance in minor ways, or get WB to spend a few more million to CGI his remaining performance a la Oliver Reed in "Gladiator" So sad, though. There can't be anything worse for a filmmaker than learning that someone they worked so intimately with has passed and they will now need to fill in the small gaps of their performance with a stand-in or CGI effects. :(
WHERE'S THE NOLAN STATEMENT?? by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 07:59:38 PM
I WANT IT NOW!!!
BurgerTime did you bother reading?? by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:00:24 PM
Harry said that all the shooting for the movie for his parts was done. There is nothing more to shoot. No over dubs needed. His part is complete. Try reading before posting.
joker-less sequels? by Jubba	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:02:45 PM
if the joker survives TDK, would it be possible to recast the role for future sequels (if there are any)?
I have read conflicting reports... by JackIsLost	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:03:38 PM
About whether the Joker survives THE DARK KNIGHT or not... do you think Nolan could somehow reshoot it to kill him off or would he just recast for the third film? Okay, so I guess I really am interested alot about what's doing with the movies... (sue me)
Lets hope that #2 or #3 is... by happybunni	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:04:51 PM
Lindsay Lohan. Why is it the good guys always die in the 3's? Why not some talentless hack.
AllPowerfulWizardOfOz by BurgerTime	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:08:58 PM
He's done now. But tell me, oh wise one, how many films can you remember DIDN'T change one bit before hitting theatres? There's five months to release, dude. This film could be in front of test audiences TEN times and need some tweaking before then. It's not inconceivable reshoots MIGHT be required. BTW, I said "IF" reshoots are needed. So trying reading before post. ;)
New Possible Cause of Death by Budkilmer	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:09:56 PM
According to TMZ, an DVD Screener of "Meet the Spartans" was found in Heath Ledger's DVD player
work done for TDK is fine but... by Silverglade	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:10:21 PM
Setting my sadness aside and to the chagrin of some to discuss marketing a sec... here goes anyway. Nolan, whatever ending he had which may include leading to The Joker in the 3rd film (if he does one) will have to be addressed. Maybe changes to the 2nd film. Any work on that third film outline with his brother will have to be altered as well. Now that I have got that out of my system, this event today is the worst thing ever. Heath will never know how loved he was and how promising his future was becoming. It is a great loss.
BurgerTime by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:13:09 PM
Reshoots before this Summer? Get out of here. And why would they anyway? Because "test audiences" don't like what they see? Fuck 'em Nolan's an artist. We're not talking about Jerry fucking Bruckheimer here.
well.. by joevfx	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:13:43 PM
if i was gonna die, i would want it to be playign one of the greateast and well known comic book villians of all time. i think its a great performance to end on.
BurgerTime by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:14:52 PM
Harry clearly said there were no reshoots needed so there is no need for an "If" in your statement. What's there is there and that is it.
PLEASE MR. NOLAN DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING!!! by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:15:05 PM
DON'T!!!!
deliciouscowbell by joevfx	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:15:26 PM
that person obviolsly doenst know anythign about a frank miller style batman, or chrostopher Nolan movies.
ABE VIGODA LAUGHS AT YOU ALL!! by thelordofhell	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:15:46 PM
Abe Vigoda will outlive everyone!! All hail the great Abe Vigoda!!
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World by BurgerTime	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:16:11 PM
(great handle by the way) I don't care how good Nolan is. There's 100+ million on the line. If WB wants reshoots, they'll get 'em if they feel they're necessary. Don't tell me you still believe in the "auteur system." :P
im a little worried by joevfx	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:18:04 PM
that they will change the ending or something about the movie cause of his death. i hope they give him the respect of making the movie that was originally suppossed to be made.
Funny you should mention that Rupee88... by FlickaPoo	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:18:19 PM
...because I DO often while watching an old movie think that it is weird that most or all of the actors are dead...especially the really hot chicks...I always think how strange it is to know that such a vibrant and sexy stage presence is either dead and rotting or old and senile. Then I think that at least there is a record of this persons youth and talent...I hope someone gives a crap when I'm dead...
WARNER EXECS ARE WORRIED RIGHT NOW ... by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:18:48 PM
If they change something i will boycott the film!!! It was dark from the begining , it should stay that way or even darker. R rated please!!!
one of us by waggy	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:19:04 PM
I don't have the slightest clue whether Heath was ever a comic reader or not, but anyone who comes off an Oscar-nominated performance with the world at his feet and picks a role in a superhero movie as his next project, takes the part 100% seriously and by all accounts knocks it out of the park is a friend in my book. I've been bummed by this news all evening, but it helps a little to hear that the performance we were all so looking forward to was completed and will not need to be modified without Heath. It just sucks to know that that performance is the end of the line, and we don't get to see how he grows from there.
AllPowerfulWizardOfOz by BurgerTime	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:20:15 PM
Okay. Whatever you say man. But at this stage in production, the cut is still fluid. Pick-ups / reshoots can be needed at any point until a month or so before a flick is locked, printed and released. Even if they say they're not needed right at this moment.
BurgerTime is a fucking idiot. by FlyinHawaiian	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:23:08 PM
Stop trying to retort "I said if." Shut it, stop trying to look smart, because you've failed.
Why the dedication has to be an end credit... by Sledge Hammer	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:23:59 PM
...otherwise you put too much baggage on the front of the movie. Reminding people that one of the lead actors died not so long ago right before rolling film on what is, at it's heart, meant to be an entertainment, is not a good thing for either the film or the audience. The dedication should be there, but it needs to be after the final scene wraps. Rest in peace you poor, crazy bastard.
Shades of River Phoenix by CreasyBear	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:28:42 PM

that ad has to go by CherryValance	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:28:44 PM
jeez. I guess it's good that his work on the film was complete but it's still just terrible to even think about.
His death is already a sound bite by snakecharmer	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:28:54 PM
" 28 year old actor found naked with pills all around him. " Fucken Media
You people make me sick by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:29:43 PM
The dude's dead. He has a two-year old daughter. And this fat fuck Knowles is posting about where he was in terms of completing his role in the Dark Knight. As long as you fucking nerds get your Batman movie, who cares if this guy is dead, right? As soon as it broke he was dead, all you goddamn fanboys could care about was "DID HE FINISH BATMAN?" And yea, I saw Harry's "This totally sucks obituary he posted earlier, and I dont buy it. None of you would give a fuck that this guy died had it happened in '05 while he was filming Brokeback Mountain. Someone needs to be in a comic book movie for any of you to give a shit, and even then, its for your own selfish reasons. That, my friends, is even sadder than his death at 28.
Are you serious Harry? by crazay	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:29:45 PM
No offense man, I know you're just doing your job and this is going to catch shit from some people but is that really what we should be talking about at this point? A wonderful and young talent has just passed away and we're most concerned about a goddamn movie? I'm surprised at you man. I always thought you had more class than that
Mr Saxon: He won't be there until next year by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:32:06 PM
Of course, there won't be anyone shown this year because it'll be cancelled
WHY SO SERIOUS? by thecomedian	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:34:03 PM
Sorry, I couldn't help it. I just got online and read this today. What a waste. Was probably accidental. Seriously was this guy that fucked up in real life? Who would have thought in a million years that this would happen. RIP man.
I highly Doubt by THE KNIGHT	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:34:47 PM
Nolan will change a thing for the 2nd film. He'll release it as it was meant to be released. The outline for the 3rd film will obviously have to be altered.
EDIT by THE KNIGHT	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:35:18 PM
Nolan won't change a thing for the 2nd film. He'll release it as it was meant to be released. The outline for the 3rd film will obviously have to be altered.
RIP Heath by awesomebri	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:36:39 PM
Its very sad and I'm really bumbed about it, and of course people are going to talk about the faith of the movie its natural. But at least as fans we can say its a great film to take a bow on. Batman and of course the Joker sits in the hearts of many of us, if it had been a chick flick or something he would not be acknowledged as the great actor he is. Now we will always remember how to "...put a smile on that face!"
Gilliam gets screwed once again by Phenom	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:36:57 PM
Thanks Heath.
ANYONE NOTICE? by THE KNIGHT	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:36:57 PM
Maybe I'm wrong... But no actor has ever played THE JOKER twice in a batman sequel?
there are some pictures of his body in a bag leaving ... by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:37:13 PM
the apartment
if you act as a fag or as the crow your doomed by johnnyg korrupt	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:37:25 PM
So he comes off a fag movie and dies a la River Phoenix And people say the Joker is too much like the Crow - another dead Your doomed.
ANYONE NOTICE? by THE KNIGHT	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:37:50 PM
Maybe I'm wrong... But no actor has ever played THE JOKER twice in a batman sequel?
Willowfan, Mysterious Yobo, etc. by westwood13	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:38:21 PM
When an exceptional young artist dies, part of the tragedy is the loss of what promised to be a great body of work that could have touched millions of people. The news that Heath's work on TDK is a great relief, not because of concern over the movie itself, but because it means we'll get to see his last performance, his final bow, the way it was meant to be seen.
Is it wrong? by Quixote.Is.I	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:39:05 PM
Yes, Heath Ledger was an actor, a great one at that. But is it wrong that one of the first things people worried about was what's going to happen with The Dark Knight flick? I hate to imagine what would have happened if he had died whiling shooting the Batman movie. People would be shouting and screaming that their precious movie might be delayed, canned, etc.
Credit to his skill in the craft by harverydent22	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:39:31 PM
I'm certainly in a weird place right now as a result of this. I have been keeping tabs on this movie since the rousing ending of the last film. Rather than harp on the details of this tragedy (of which none of us know the full story behind), I offer this simple tribute as a fanboy To his credit, Ledger's final performance as the ace of knaves will, hopefully, be phenominal. I find it oddly warming, that we now look forward at a possible third batman film, and think, who ELSE can play the Joker? But it was only ten months ago so many people were complaining and worried that Mr. Ledger could not pull it off. It is truly a testiment to the talent he had, that after two trailers, we can say such things. I hope his last performance is his best. I hope he wins some post-humonous awards. My thoughts go out to his friends and family
Credit to his skill in the craft by harverydent22	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:40:43 PM
I'm certainly in a weird place right now as a result of this. I have been keeping tabs on this movie since the rousing ending of the last film. Rather than harp on the details of this tragedy (of which none of us know the full story behind), I offer this simple tribute as a fanboy To his credit, Ledger's final performance as the ace of knaves will, hopefully, be phenominal. I find it oddly warming, that we now look forward at a possible third batman film, and think, who ELSE can play the Joker? But it was only ten months ago so many people were complaining and worried that Mr. Ledger could not pull it off. It is truly a testiment to the talent he had, that after two trailers, we can say such things. I hope his last performance is his best. I hope he wins some post-humonous awards. My thoughts go out to his friends and family
BTW Poor Mathilda... by skoobyx	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:40:52 PM
And Michelle Williams...that can't be easy one way or the other. I always thought she seemed sweet.
For those who say... by Greenleaf1	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:41:15 PM
...that it's crude to be talking about the dark knight when a man is dead, let me just say that how many people die of overdoses every day and nobody cares. It's a tragedy, but just because he's famous doesn't make his death any more special, except through his work in movies. If we are concerned about the status of his final performance, that doesn't make us any less concerned over his death, perhaps we are even more concerned.
The truth of the matter... by PirateEmery	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:41:22 PM
I haven't watched a single thing that Heath Ledger was in. I don't know what his "real" voice sounds like... I didn't give a damn about him prior to Dark Knight. So, I'm SORRY if a bunch of you think that Harry is a heartless wretch, but Dark Knight was the second thing that came to my mind after the news this afternoon. I appreciate this article for what it is: "what does this tragedy mean to Dark Knight?" Get over it... It's not like we're spitting on Ledger's memory. My prayers go out to him and his daughter.
Your Moms Box by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:42:37 PM
I think most of us are truly upset about the death of Ledger. I personally have been a fan of his since A Knights Tale which is one of those movies that I can watch over and over again. That being said you have to keep in mind that this is still a website that reports on guess what... wait for it.......wait for it....... MOVIES you dumb down shit for brains. I think it's really sicking that you would discount any of our sadness because you have some stupid opinion about where you think that is rooted from. So fucking what if some of the people who are said over his death may not have heard or known much about Heath prior to his casting in The Dark Knight? It does not diminish how horrible this news is for people. This was a young actor with tons of promise and he's gone. Your fool hardy tirade doesn't add to the conversation it just makes you look like a fucking idiot for posting it. Get off your goddamn soap box for a second and truly take a look at what you posted. The impact of his death should not be measured based on the fact that he had an ever growing fan base the impact is what it is. Even if someone like me or you were a fan of his work prior to TDK it does not make the feelings people have any less then yours or mine and who are you to judge? And as far as Harry making a post about the movie. Again idiot this is a movie site. It's Harry's job to report news on such. So what if people have questions about if he finished his role in the movie. Harry did nothing wrong and you choosing to make some rant about it only makes you look even dumber. Go fuck yourself you heaping pile of dog shit.
Mr Saxon: The fun part will be ... by chrth	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:43:53 PM
if they air the oscars, and when they do the people that died, there will be ten million talkbackers screaming 'WHERE'S HEATH LEDGER?!? HOW COULD THEY FORGET HEATH?!?' Although to be honest, I thought I read somewhere once that the cutoff date was actually February 1st, not January 1st, so it is conceivable Heath makes it.
His career was starting to get really interesting. by rbatty024	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:44:01 PM
It wasn't until Brokeback that I really looked at him as a quality actor. It's such a shame that just when he was turning in exceptional work his career is cut short. Even he said that he was allowed to make a lot of mistakes on screen. You could tell he was a talented actor through hard work.
christ harry give it a rest. WTF. by dr.bulber	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:44:37 PM
the dude died just TODAY.
His death will SELL TICKETS by aceattorney	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:45:25 PM
I doubt they'll recast.
It is only natural to think of this in selfish terms... by JackIsLost	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:46:56 PM
None of us were personal friends of Heath Ledger. There are thousands of people who die every day you don't think twice about, b/c they have no relationship to you. What is our relationship to Ledger? His movies... so I guess it makes sense that our first thought: "Man, I hope this doesn't negatively affect Batman". It's only natural. In fact, I think going into crazy mourning over someone you don't know is kind of wierd...
What would really make Heath a Legend? by spidermanfreak20	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:46:57 PM
Bury him with his art. Don't release it in theaters. Recast the Joker with someone else. How awesome a Joke it would be if Nolan and WB edited the film made the print then took all reels of him playing the Joker and buried it with him forever. Burning every trace. Let the art die with the artist. And leaving it for his daughter to watch when she is old enough to understand and care. My vote is to bury Heath with his performance. Making him more of a legend.
It really won't sink in until after people see The Dark Knight by zooch	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:47:13 PM
Then people are really going to see how much of a great actor we are losing and how much of a tragedy his death is.
RE: Spidermanfreak20 by jojo-pimp	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:50:12 PM
uhh..thats just retarded
spidermanfreak, that is just the dumbest thing i have ever heard by JackIsLost	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:50:43 PM
But then I am pretty sure you're joking, so...
Unless you were a personal friend...... by Mister Man	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:51:11 PM
it's "Ledger" - keep the "Paris," white-trash, pap approach outta here. It's tacky. It's stupid. Not everyone now lives in a trailer, slobbering over "our celebrity pals."
Plz, stop posting silly topics by Foucault	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:51:59 PM
Just stop!
Wouldn't it be weird... by ddschneider1972	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:56:41 PM
..if in his next movie he was going to star with Brad Renfro, and Susanne Plechette in a movie about Sir Edmund Hilary and Bobby Fischer...with music by John Stewart of the Kingston Trio...That Grim Reaper has been one busy S.O.B. latley.
Oh man I couldn't wait to get home from the hospital by ThePilgrim	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:57:09 PM
too read this bullshit on AICN. I heard it and thought.. Figures. I never knew he had a drug problem- unlike the openly public about it "look at me" Lohan, Britney and Paris. But then I though wow thats weird. I was thinking about the new joker for the last two days. I was even trying my hands at immitating heaths joker laugh while driving around. Deal is this- my moms in a hospital. How do I feel. Well I'm shocked but giving the nature of my world at the moment. I don't really give a fuck. I knew TDK would be everyones big worry shit i thought about it as well. That pretty selfish in a way, but i understand. As Freddie Mercury said "Give Me the Prize", and Heaths new joker seems to have a very good "look at me" ism about it, so I can't blame, but we would be better not to be openly open about it, cause it's just fucking rude. The world is cruel but it takes a real man to stand up against the trappings. Heath never got that chance to face and destroy his own demons. I tried to tell folks. It's not about pain and sarrow it's abotu addicition. You can be a normal person froma normal home and you can still have addictive issues with substance abuse. Heath fuckign proves it. I still think this is the year Harry passes away as well. I have this odd feeling. Can't explain it. Choice is a bitch, but if you always try to make the right ones. You chnaces of living long and yada yada are pretty good. Thsi film is gonna feel like the crow me thinks but in reverse. fucking sucks
FlyinHawaiian by BurgerTime	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:59:16 PM
This is rediculous. If you have anything to do with any kind of editing (I post TV commercials) you know that it ain't locked until the tape is on its way to the TV station. And that's a commercial with - say - 10-15 cuts in it. I'm not in feature film production, but I'm pretty sure it's similar. Clients, executives, account managers, etc. can come back at any time and demand re-shoots, pickups, re-edits, whatever. And most of it is due to focus-group testing. Yes, it's a pain in the ass when it happens. Yes it sucks to have your work tampered with. But it gets done whether you like it or not. I hope there's no more work necessary on TDK, because I think Ledger's performance will be one for the ages. And I'm not arguing that there will be any more work necessary for his role. I'm taking their word for it. It's done. But knowing the nature of the beast, it CAN still happen. And IF it does, I was speculating about what the studio might need to do in such an event. Just trying to create some conversation. Jesus, lighten up everyone.
I WANT A NOLAN STATEMENT THIS TODAY!! by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:59:24 PM
AND A BALE ONE TOO!!!
EVERYBODY'S going to go see Dark Knight now... by YotzVonFrelnik	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:59:27 PM
And I hate touching on a delicate subject like revenue at a time like this, but geez... realistically, you gotta wonder what kind of effect this will have on it's box office results. It might have insane returns through the roof! Still, I think hearts will be in the right places. Those who knew of him will want one last ride, and those who didn't know him so much will be like, "Hey, I need to see what was so great about the dude!" And so they will find out.
I WANT A NOLAN STATEMENT TODAY!! by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 08:59:34 PM
AND A BALE ONE TOO!!!
All and Powerful Wizard of Oz.... by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:00:21 PM
First of all, who the fuck do you think your talking to? I'm not one of your little chat room buddies, or one of your friends on X Box Live. You got alot of balls running your mouth like that. Fucking Punk. Secondly, no. What I said is not idiotic or judemental. I know this is a movie site. No need to point that out to me. But for one second, pull Harry's cock out of your mouth and think before you go off on a profanity laced attack at someone in pure gangster fashion, you suburban douche bag. That fat shit hasnt reported on "news" in 5 years. He posted a story about Brad Renfro's death almost a DAY after it happened. Anyone else out there back me up. How many times have you seen movie related "news" posted on 90% of the other sites out there way before they pop up on this one? Yea, Knowles has his ear to the ground all right. I'm not wrong at all in what I said. Most of the people on this board, Harry included, only gave a shit that the JOKER DIED. Not Heath Ledger. Like I said, had this been 2 years ago, no one here would have cared, and his story would have been pulled from the site as fast as Renfro's was. Your the one that is on a soap box, not me. Stop trying to convince yourself that its ok to immediately ask "Did he finish the Dark Knight?" after hearing he died. Your a douche bag, and I hope they find your body one day surrounded by pills. It would barely make the news in your church bulletin, you piece of shit.
Watching the family comment about it in Australia by Orionsangels	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:02:31 PM
It's really hitting home.
Your Mom's Box, really go the fuck away! by IAmJack'sUserID	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:03:19 PM
Your little 8 year old level diatribe only reflects on how powerfully pathetic you are. Let people mourn in their own way, you judgment arrogant little twat.
Here's a suggestion to Terry "Dear Lord, I am FUCKING unlucky" G by BadWaldo s Revenge	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:04:51 PM
Re-write the screenplay in revision to conduct a plot device that explain the death or disappearance of the clown role played by Heath Ledger. Think of something non-contrived to keep Heath's last film role while paying respect to the late actor. Don't forget "In memoriam" before ending credit roll. Batman Begins sucked because of Katie Holmes' terrible acting and awful slam-bang Michael Bay convoluted editing, but here's hoping The Dark Knight will be a great film solely based on Heath's mind-bendingly insane performance as the narcissistic, murderously psychotic villain The Joker
YOU HAVE TO DIE TO BE IMMORTAL by ludmir88	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:06:55 PM
I WONDER WHAT WILL BE THE LAST LINE OF THE JOKER. I HOPE A COOL AND MEMORABLE ONE.
Your Moms Box, you insensitive fuck by troutpencil	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:08:05 PM
http://tinyurl.com/29ryue This girl is dead, and you don't care one iota about her or her poor family. What do you think they're going through right now? Where do you get off browsing internet websites and commenting on shit while brazenly ignoring this family's grief? But I'm asking rhetorical questions, because I know for a fact that you don't give a shit about that girl. She was a human being that died tragically before her time, and you can't even be bothered. Shame on you. Shame on all of you for your indifference to Lyndsay Louise Craig. RIP
Sam the Butcher, Pleschette, Heath by Grammaton Cleric Binks	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:08:07 PM
There's the three. Weird.
by troutpencil	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:08:13 PM

Some google ad just freaked me out a little by Lobanhaki	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:09:27 PM
It's one of the Joker ads, the one where he's written in either blood or lipstick "Why So Serious?" Jeez louise, that phrase takes on poignant significance now, and even makes it a little darkly funny. In a weird way it's reassuring. I think he might have wanted us to enjoy watching the movie, rather than make it into some morbid deathwatch thing.
A bunch of pompous assbags trying to "out-grieve" each other by Hervoyel	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:10:11 PM
That's what you people are who keep crying about it being "too soon" and complaining because a website focused on movies is interested in whether or not Heath Ledger finished one that most of us are looking forward to. I want to know if he finished Dark Knight or not. I want to know how much work he'd done on Gilliam's project. I'm not going to the fucking funeral people because I didn't know him personally so what I know about Heath Ledger comes from HIS WORK. I'm interested in where that stands so thanks for posting the information Harry.
I agree that Your Moms Box is a shit head by virtual_ninja	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:10:49 PM
Think your tough making threats over the internet? plz get over yourself and get the fuck off this site.
Here's hoping Ledger's last role... by Regenhund	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:11:41 PM
will turn out to have been a better choice than Raul Julia's. I still get sad thinking about his "legacy".
I've never OD'd on sleeping pills but.... by JackIsLost	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:14:13 PM
I have definitely taken more than the recommended amount. Makes you feel high and kind of woozy but I never really thought it was something that could kill me. Kind of scary to think of it. Needless, I won't be doing that anymore...
Your Moms Box so tell AICN this numbnuts by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:14:19 PM
Why the fuck are you here on this site at all if that's the way you feel?? Hmmmmm, lets see. 1. Your Moms Box does not like AICN website, check. 2. Your Moms Box still visits and post at AICN website, check. 3. Your Moms Box is still a fucking idiot, check. And another thing. I am not some little suburban punk you douche bag. I have my own house in the big little city of Baltimore and I am am movie fanatic. While there are other sites out there to get movie info AICN is my staple and has been for over 5 years. It does a fine job for me in reporting the news. While they are not perfect and don't always get the story straight it's run with real heart and not every website is perfect you dumbass. About me sucking on Harry's cock. Well lets see. I don't always agree with Harry. I hate Eli Roth. I thought Death Proof was fucking garbage. Matter of fact I'd say 50% or more of the time I disagree with Harry's reviews. That being I still think the guy runs the website fairly and I enjoy the interviews by Capone. I don't think Harry's a shill, and unless you've met him personally which I have then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about cause Harry ain't living as large as you think. Harry's getting by and keeping this website afloat so turds like you can float around making asinine post based on facts you know nothing about so shut the fuck up. As far as your comment about Harry not caring or others not caring had this been two years ago, please just stop with it. You look foolish man. Really. I guess I really touched a nerve when I called you out and I've already covered the ground in regard to your comments about if people care or not. Like you were some homie of Heath's. You ignorant inbred sociopath. Do me a favor keyboard commando. Pull the hoho's out of your ass and choke on your grape soda in your mommy's basement.
Iam Jacks User ID by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:15:25 PM
Thats really funny. Let people mourn in their own way. OK...I relent. Its fine to cry "Did he finish the Dark Knight before he died at least!?". Thats just the way some people grieve, and I was wrong to judge them. Cunt.
Iam Jacks User ID by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:16:23 PM
Thats really funny. Let people mourn in their own way. OK...I relent. Its fine to cry "Did he finish the Dark Knight before he died at least!?". Thats just the way some people grieve, and I was wrong to judge them. Cunt.
Why would Nolan change the 3rd film? by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:16:31 PM
Joker can't have THAT big of a role. He could have just as easily got rid of Whatsherfaces character altogether but instead brought in Youknowwho to play her. I don't see why anything has to change, a new actor wouldn't be that big of a deal.
it will be hard if Joker dies by antonphd	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:20:44 PM
in the film. knowing that Heath is no longer alive.
All and Powerful Oz.... by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:20:44 PM
You win. I can't compete with a man that lists things and checks them off as he answers them. Nor can I compete with someone of your obvious fine social stature. Owning your own home in Baltimore must have set you back at least 25 grand.
Just watched Lords of Dogtown by RedwingsHoolihan	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:22:38 PM
Great Heath Ledger preformance. Especially his last scene in the movie.
Just watched Lords of Dogtown by RedwingsHoolihan	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:23:32 PM
Great Heath Ledger preformance. Especially his last scene in the movie.
re: Too soon or not? by digitalcos	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:23:37 PM
Ok, let's get some perspective here. It's not like we're all knocking on his Mother's door while she's making funeral arrangements to ask her whether his work on Batman was completed or not. We're discussing the subject of his work on a popular movie fan site. Why do any of you care at all about Heath Ledger? Why do you even know Heath Ledger's name? Because of his work as an actor. I don't see how discussing the subject of how his death will affect the outcome of his final project, even on the day of his death, is at all disrespectful. Especially given what that final project is, and how much many of us have been looking forward to seeing his work in that project. No, it seems perfectly respectful to me. That's not to say that how that discussion has been handled so far by some of us has been the model of maturity.
The Death Nazis are out in force by Ye Not Guilty	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:24:21 PM
I'm so glad the Death Nazis are here to dictate to everyone exactly how they should be feeling and what they should be thinking and saying right now in reaction to this news. Keep up the good work, Death Nazis!
Damn it's easy to double post here.. by RedwingsHoolihan	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:24:27 PM
sorry 'bout that
Mr. Saxon by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:24:50 PM
Hillarious what happens when you call a bunch of fanboys out for their behavior. Unite nerds, unite and attack the man that pointed out your bullshit. All I can do now is hope Nolan recasts the role, which delays the film another 6-8 months, and then I can sit here and watch you all bitch and moan again. Not because you want to see Ledger's performance. But because Batsy isnt out yet.
THE SHOW MUST GO ON by ObiWanCon	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:26:41 PM
Or what's the fucking point of life.
Your Moms Box of course I win by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:26:46 PM
And yeah you just know so much about the property value here in good ol charm city. I guess you're a real estate expert too huh? 25 grand, yeah right. Roland Park buddy, look it up.
Great Actor by angelopoulos	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:27:10 PM
Ledger has always done good work, from the underrated 10 Things I Hate About You in which his charisma drove that film, to his amazing turn in BBM. I didn't much care for the film BBM, but his performance was incredible. The trailer alone for The Dark Knight absolutely knocked me out. Again, I was hypnotized by him. Even though it will be sad watching that movie as his last performance, surely no one will have any doubt- Heath Ledger IS the Joker. All other versions have been completely lacking compared to the trailer alone. Seriously, I get goosebumps when I watch him in that. He's just scary as hell. My thoughts and prayers go out to his family, his ex, and his little girl. Being a father of a little girl myself, I can only imagine the emotions that little angel is going to be going through. As far as the incident, as far as I'm concerned it was an accident. We all have ailments. His might have been depression. No one calls for a massage before checking out. He was trying to unwind. Everyone on here needs to get over themselves. We should be offering condolences and showing how classy we can be as genre fans, not what complete idiots we are. RIP, Heath. Thank you for your fantastic work as an actor. I feel like something was stolen from me today.
Not a bad role to go out on. by greenstyle92	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:27:12 PM
I wonder if there will be a trailer out for Dark Knight touting "..And Heath Ledger in his powerful final performance?"
can you believe this guy? by virtual_ninja	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:29:03 PM
what a pathetic little turd of a person
I don't see how.. by hard8	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:29:08 PM
They could carry the Joker over to the next film. If Heath's performance is anything that Chis Nolan suggests, he owed the role. And since Nolan is using the multiple villian theme in this film that means that there was going to be more Joker in the 3rd installment. Either they are going to have to re-think that and re-cut the ending to write him out or they are going to have find someone else to emulate him in the 3rd film... which I just can't see happeneing. It would be trampling an actor's legacy to a certain degree. Paul Bettany just doesn't get me as excited as I was when I heard he was up for the role. Seeing the film is going to be tough knowing that is it for him. fin.
can you believe this guy? by virtual_ninja	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:30:18 PM
what a pathetic little turd of a person
Oh and by the way.... by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:30:29 PM
Jerk offs. I counted at least 5 other talk backers that pointed out the same flaw in Harry and most of your psyches. Yet I am the idiot, the fool, the preverbial pain in the ass. Drop the pack mentality, you bunch of nerds. I have a right to my opinion, which is what talkback is for. And right now I'd like to voice my opinion and inform The Wonderfuk Wizard of Oz that Baltimore is and will forever be a shithole.
Damn shame by Dokkalvar	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:32:09 PM
Sorry about the pain and anguish this might cause his family and friends, but at least he finished the movie. wipes sweat from brow that was a close one. .....grumble....
Your Moms Box I guess you told us huh? by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:34:16 PM
Wow Harry quick shut down the site. Your Moms Box found 5 other trolls to take his side. It's over Harry time to throw in the towel now you've been called out. And yeah I guess I should start packing and move out of my home town. What was I thinking living in Roland Park? What the hell was a I thinking at all? Your Moms Box, shut the fuck up.
Mr Saxon... by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:36:14 PM
I never said anyone had to weep. I am not weeping nor will I ever weep for Heath Ledger. I simply said it was fucked up that the dude died, and all Harry could talk about both in his little obit and here was trying to figure out if he completed his role in the Dark Knight. Stop twisting my words around.
"I wish I knew how to quit you." by Skankardly	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:37:02 PM
sleeping pills seem to work. Thank You! Good Night!
Just a suggestion... by memflix	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:37:22 PM

Alright that's it... by digitalcos	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:39:21 PM
The maturity level in this room has dropped way too low. I'm done. Have fun kids. (walks away shaking head)
Hey All and Powerful Oz by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:40:14 PM
I'm a troll? You got balls, you back peddling little cunt of a man. When I called you a "suburban douche bag", you told me you werent of suburbia, that you owned a home in Baltimore. When I said Baltmore was a dump (it still is, I dont care how nuce the fucking aquarium is), you told me you lived in an area of Baltimore full of mansions and private schools. An area that is deemed the FIRST PLANNED SUBURB IN THE COUNTRY. Get off it, you lying little sack of shit, and stop changing your story to fit your argument. Fucking spin doctoring asshole. Die in a fire.
can't imagine how weird it must be for nolan and co by noiretblanc	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:40:25 PM
to work on the movie at this point
sorry. by Skankardly	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:40:42 PM

waits behind door to room by Skankardly	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:44:27 PM
and hits shaking head with bat
SKANKARDLY - YOU WEREN'T THE FIRST ONE WITH THAT LINE by BringingSexyBack	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:44:43 PM
You were out-tarded by at least a dozen others. Better luck next time.
Ledger's last work by Shut the Fuck up Donny	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:44:47 PM
As callous as it may appear on the surface, I think there's merit to showing concern as to whether he finished this film or not, because he will be partially remembered for whatever his last role was. So, do we want to see him (potentially) going out on a high note in The Dark Knight,or do we end up having another Raul Julia or John Candy moment?
And another one by memflix	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:44:50 PM
Maybe talkbacks should be disabled for a day or two when a celebrity dies. His daughter is going to be staring at the door waiting for Daddy to pick her up and spin her around, but he never will. Think about that little girl as you all start tearing into one another. Batman or no Batman, a child's father is dead.
LOL Your Moms Box actually looked it up. by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:45:17 PM
Well for you information Roland Park is a part of Baltimore City and far from Suburbia. While true it's a beautiful area and was deemed the "first suburb in the country" you do realize that was over 100 years ago? LMAO. This clown doesn't quit does he? Truly you are a mental giant among men. No one likes you and you are just digging a deeper hole. Back to one of my questions from earlier. Why are you here on this site if you don't like this site? Care to answer that question?
Replace him digitally for the third movie??? by Kid Idioteque	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:45:25 PM
Is that a possibility? Might be more respectful than recasting, especially if it's a small role. They can almost do it convincingly now, I'm sure they could do it well in 3 years. Maybe.
shit! by Skankardly	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:50:14 PM
got here late and got sick of the drivel about ten posts in...well I obviously must tip my cap to those who have out-tarded me. CHEERS!
All and Powerful Oz. by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:53:26 PM
I looked nothing up. I am a realtor by trade, liscensed in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Virginia and Maryland. Anyway, I come to this site for movie news. That doesnt mean I have to like the guy that runs it (I dont) or some of the people that post on it (I dont). I am done arguing with you, as it is almost 11 PM at night, and I just realized I wasted the past hour being baited into a name calling match. I've been 10 years old before, and have no interest to be so again. Nor do I care about your stance that "No one on here likes me", once again something I used to say in a sing song voice to the unpopular kids in 3rd grade. I stated my opinion, and just because you and six of your talk back buddies jumped down my throat, it doesnt change the validity of it. I'm sure plenty of people out there agree with me. They just dont want to be drawn into a "fuck you" match that you and your friends created. Im now inclined to join them, and bid you goodnight.
Sorry BurgerTime by FlyinHawaiian	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:54:28 PM
I apologize for being heated, but there will be no reshoots for his scenes, because they went through them so he could film his next movie, as opposed to doing it in a regular fashion. There could be reshoots for TDK, but not scenes containing Heath. I work mostly in technical film, but not editing, so I'm not sure the process they go through exactly, but be rest assured, there will most likely be nothing done.
i agree with you memflix... by rikazodrac	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:57:31 PM
i cant imagine what it'd be like not being around to see my daughter grow up. i feel for his daughter the most.
Someone call the wambalance for Your Moms Box by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:57:37 PM
Good fucking riddance.
i agree with you memflix... by rikazodrac	Jan 22nd, 2008 09:59:20 PM
i cant imagine what it'd be like not being around to see my daughter grow up. i feel for his daughter the most.
your moms box...dumbass by BULLMICHAEL	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:03:38 PM
First Harry did do the obit....and I know first hand it sucked for him, I called him the second the news broke, he has and had no clue who I was but knew it was important to all, not just us "comic book geeks", you could tell how upset he was just for the minute I talked to him....Second...it's his damn job to let the geeks here know what's going on, yes we all hate the fact that he is gone and will miss his acting and yes we can't wait to see the greatness he brought to the joker...so fuck off and leave harry alone....dumbass....RIP Ledger...God bless his family esp that little girl....this sucks ass
Mr. Saxon... by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:05:54 PM
No I am not related to Ledger. As I stated before, my comment was angered at the notion that this WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING had he died making Brokeback Mountain. There would have been a brief post regarding it, a few "That sucks"..."He was young" from the Tbers, and that would have been it. But, despite what some here say, this is NOT a movie site. It's a fan boy site, and thats whats sickening. His death affected something Knowles looked forward to, and that is what makes him sad. Not the mans early exit from the world. Going so far as to post a seperate link for a TB where fanboys can breathe a collective sigh of "OH...he completed his role before he croaked, thank God!" is what pissed me off.
Bullmichael by Your Moms Box	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:08:26 PM
I dont care if you have Harry's number. Whats that got to do with anything?
what if Michaelangelo died while working on the Sistine Chapel? by Rupee88	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:09:21 PM
Don't you retards understand how that would be tragic for all of humanity? Goddamn some of you are dumb. Yeah, we feel bad for his 2 y/o daughter, but millions of people appreciated his work and losing that is tragic as well. Go watch Epic Movie or Meet the Spartans, you retards.
Let Your Mom's Box keep talking.... by IAmJack'sUserID	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:11:11 PM
"Let him rave on, that men will know him mad". No rebuke of ours is as damning as the putrid garbage flying from his ignorant mouth. Tis a sad boy indeed, and I would pity him but I save my pity for those who truly deserve it.
and no a batman movie is not the same as the fucking sistine cha by Rupee88	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:12:24 PM
if that's all you get out of my post, then you really are dumb
wernt you going to sleep your moms box? by virtual_ninja	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:13:53 PM
if not keep up the posts, they are hilarious
Joker no more by rhine1784	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:16:16 PM
I had heard that Nolan was not going to kill the Joker in TDK, so what now? Also Heath is the 3rd if you count Brand Renfro as number 1. RIP Heath!!
dear god by Deep Roots	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:17:43 PM
fuck, people! who cares? someone died. A human died. A really wonderful actor, and a human. People who want to talk about TDK, fine. I can see how that fits in. If you don't wanna talk about it, then fine...I can seee that too. But sonofabitch, how can two talkbacks dedicated to Heath Ledger erupt into petty fighting? Settle down folks.
yobo by troutpencil	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:19:20 PM
He doesn't get a second thought? The entire internet is consumed with strangers wishing RIP on message boards and in comments for TMZ articles and related bullshit. The guy is going to be infinitely more fellated than the other mopes who died the same day he did. It's the Princess Diana syndrome. The people who don't care are a lot more grown up than those that bawl and pull their hair out and make a point of expressing the most polite grief possible via internet messages. You're a fucking holier-than-thou liar if you say that you didn't think about what would happen to The Dark Knight when you found out he was dead. I myself was pretty bummed to find out, but my only connection with Ledger is with his movies. It's all I care about personally. I feel bad also when anyone dies, but not moreso because they're rich and famous, like you dicks with Ledger. The only reason I care more about him than the poor deceased Miss Craig is because he was connected with something which I am interested in; The Dark Knight. If I were in Harry's place I probably wouldn't have posted this update on TDK, but that's not because I'm smarter than him. It's because I'm a pussy, and I know that awful, stupid people like you exist to tear me down for being reasonable. So I now have more respect for Harry for posting this. Because fuck you assholes.
Heath would appreciate this article. by Kid Idioteque	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:21:56 PM
And not everyone dwelling on how he died.
Why the Dark Knight is important... by br1947	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:24:23 PM
because it is his work, what he cared about. It is what Ledger's life was about, what he was good at. There is no finer tribute to the man than saying his final work is complete.
Good post, Harry Bolzonnia. by IAmJack'sUserID	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:26:34 PM
That's how I feel. I admit I am not a fan of Ledger, and when I heard he was cast as the Joker, I didn't know what to think other than "what the hell?" But I heard, saw, and read good things about his upcoming performance, and I could see he didn't appear to be a typical Hollywood media whore actor like a lot; he genuinely seemed like a decent person in real life although of course I didn't know him. But I truly felt that his performance in The Dark Knight WOULD make me a fan, and I'd be one for the rest of his hopefully long and prosperous career. I think a lot of this unexpected grief (at least on my part) is because I won't be able to see him grow into an iconic actor, and I was looking forward to having him blow me away with his Joker performance.
Heath by SaveTrestles27	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:29:58 PM
The real tragedy is his daughter's loss of her daddy.
i appreciate an entertainment news site that keeps by noiretblanc	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:31:58 PM
me informs about the particulars regarding the state of entertainment. if you want to give out condolences and have a word of silence, sign up for the funeral home's message board, aintit rigormortisnews.com
i appreciate an entertainment news site that keeps by noiretblanc	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:35:07 PM
me informs about the particulars regarding the state of entertainment. if you want to give out condolences and have a word of silence, sign up for the funeral home's message board, aintit rigormortisnews.com
sorry by dizzywhip	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:42:07 PM
didnt really like his movies. not really a fan of him, probably cause 10 things was so lame. shocking to see people so young go but still i'll be ok with them having a differeent joker in batman 3. they have a different rachel so whats the dif.
Heath by wcgilb	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:48:29 PM
Thanks for the update Harry. What a huge loss.
Man ... by Dr.Poots	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:51:43 PM
This thread has devolved from a relatively respectful talkback to a broken beer bottle fight between two toothless, drunken, shrieking, burly trannies fighting to the death over a straight guy who doesn't even realize they're there.
you are totally wrong dude by troutpencil	Jan 22nd, 2008 10:54:57 PM
The morally outraged bullshit that you pulled out is indefensible. Because you guys have your internet pride at stake, you will defend it to the last, but it really is dumb. When I found out he died, I was shocked. I think it's sort of stranged that I would be shocked; it wasn't like I woke up expecting specifically that Heath Ledger would not die today; my expectations weren't dashed. But it was out of the blue. At the same time that I was appalled, I had the immediate impulse to post in one of these talkbacks pondering what would happen to TDK, the public reaction, etc. But I held back because it seemed rude to me. I had the same thoughts initially that you did. "That would be insensitive assholery." But after thinking about it, I realized that that was dumb. It was just the constrained, foolish part of my personality that was influencing me. You fellas submitted to that. You wouldn't bring it up in front of his mourning family, but AICN is just the place for it. And about this halfassed point about disrespectful followups to a person's death, talking about their "projects"... Look in that article I linked: http://tinyurl.com/29ryue In the first paragraph, they mention her job. Child care worker. In the last couple they talk about how they're going to donate her organs. Her dad is quoted: "I would like to know how they are doing. It is comforting to know that she did not die totally in vain." I don't want to get into any debate about how a person's life is the sum of their works. That would be foolish. But what a person does is what carries on after their death. Just being alive is notable, but what makes someone truly notable is what they do, you see, that's why people are interested. It is totally sensible to want to know about Batman. Especially here. So seriously. Sheath the moral outrage.
This sucks so much ass. by Pagliacci	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:00:23 PM
This is worse than when Chris Farley or Steve Irwin died. Ledger had so much potential. I was hoping to see his Joker in two, maybe three movies. Fuck it all, some days it doesn't pay to wake up. Ah well.......... "That which doesn't kill you, can only make you... STRANGER..."
What the hell, this just sucks by kafka07	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:03:40 PM
I wonder how it will effect the Bat-franchise down the road.
RIP Heath. by Pagliacci	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:04:38 PM
That's all I got left tonight.
What the hell, this just sucks by kafka07	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:05:00 PM
I wonder how it will effect the Bat-franchise down the road.
CNN is covering how the Joker "consumed" him by jdl82	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:08:45 PM
I knew it. I have no emotional connections with Ledger. His performance as the Joker was going to be my first conscious introduction to the man. But I do not -- I absolute DO NOT -- want Nolan to kill-off the Joker. I do, however, want him to reappear in future sequels, so I would not object to the Joker being re-cast in later films.
The Crow already did it. by Darth Philbin	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:17:07 PM
If you wear clown makeup in a comic book movie you are playing with teh fire.
White paint is the kiss of death. by skywalkerfamily	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:22:00 PM

jdl82 - whoop dee do by JimCurry	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:28:45 PM
now warner Bros. can get started thinking about another sequel because you wouldn't object to the joker being recast.
Wow. by mfcorleone	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:30:46 PM
His Joker is going to rawk. effing paris hilton lives and this guy dies. I call shenanegins. GO GIANTS!
maggie g. kinda looks like katie h. by noiretblanc	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:34:02 PM
so, that was a good recast. who looks like heath l?
I always found Star Wars loving dorks to be socially vacuous by BringingSexyBack	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:35:15 PM
and Darth Philbin and Skywalkerfamily just proves it. Why don't you play with your light sabers and leave grown-up talkbacks to the able-minded?
noiretblanc, an answer to your stupid q. by JimCurry	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:38:08 PM
Eddie Murphy in a Rick Baker suit, bitch!
how is it a stupid q, Jim C? by noiretblanc	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:40:42 PM
that was quite and even more stupid response from you
It would be disrespectful to his work by zooch	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:40:55 PM
If they did anything else other than complete the film, the way it was intended to be completed.
some of you by hard8	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:42:35 PM
are bawiling like you personally knew the man. you are tools on the internet without a moderator. shut up already about how disrespectful it is. we don't give a fuck about your feelings or anyone elses for that matter. it's morons like you that make "leave Britney alone!" videos for youtube cause you have no "real" people to care about. The guy may be dead, and it's sad, but don't kid yourself into thinking that you would have been a part of his personal life if he were still here.
On the Joker... by RAVENL0RD	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:43:36 PM
I highly doubt they would recast the role for this series of Batman movies. Don't forget, guys, there are several other villains in the Batman universe.
by PFFFFT	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:45:52 PM
oh well thank fuck fior that huh harry. his work was complete for batman huh. well thank fuck for that huh? wouldn't want his death to ruin the movie for ya hey harry. you fat cunt.
ATTN PFFFT by hard8	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:49:26 PM
see one post up.
ATTN PFFFT by hard8	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:49:40 PM
see above.
skywalker - re: "White paint is the kiss of death" by Lamerz	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:50:50 PM
Jack Nicholson is dead too???? When will it ever end???? Geez.
I Predict.... by wattos new hat	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:52:16 PM
TDA will be the highest grossing film of the summer '08. look out indiana jones and ironman
noiretblanc you are so wrong by JimCurry	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:52:47 PM
Damn you for doing this. Show some goddamn respect you hobo.
So painfully ironic by kafka07	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:54:49 PM
Some of his last few movies have dealt with death and loss. Those pangs will be felt all the more whenever I revisit them, and when I see Dark Knight for the first time. I will still see and enjoy TDK even though Heath's death changes things, and WB may change or cancel the film's marketing, push up the release, etc. Besides, it'll be a good way to celebrate him by appreciating his work as the Joker. It looks like he put everything into it.
PFFFFT by torgosPizza	Jan 22nd, 2008 11:56:47 PM
That made me laugh for about 10 fucking minutes. Thank you.
attn HARD8 by PFFFFT	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:01:16 AM
hey, i dont give one fuck about ledger. but i certainly do give a shit about some dumb fat american fuckbag who is more concerned with a movie than a death. BITE ME hard8 you fucking clown.
Hey you louse by JimCurry	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:05:36 AM
If you're going to be a motherfucker, and a cocksucker, and a fuckin mothersucker, then get lost and do your doody in some other pool. This one here is filled with chlorine (i.e. people who respect loss), and we ain't dealing with no floating turds today...
It appears it's an illness rather than OD by alpha	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:06:13 AM
We will have to await the autopsy but it appears that he may have suffered breathing difficulties due to fluid on his lungs and that combined with the sleeping pills amy have resulted in his sad passing. As for his work - he was probably unlucky not to be rewarded for Brokeback - it really was the best performance of the year. He always worked hard to embody the roles he played and it's a shame we wont see where he could have gone.
FlyinHawaiian by Aphex Twin	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:09:02 AM
Sorry for the late reply. No I didn't know Heath personally. But reassuring people that his work on The Dark Knight was finished and fans have nothing to worry about is rather shallow considering the man isn't even cold yet. A beloved actor has died, why are we worrying about whether he finished his part in a movie is finished when he has a 2 year old daughter he left behind? WTF indeed.
FlyinHawaiian by Aphex Twin	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:16:46 AM
Sorry for the late reply. No I didn't know Heath personally. But reassuring people that his work on The Dark Knight was finished and fans have nothing to worry about is rather shallow considering the man isn't even cold yet. A beloved actor has died, why are we worrying about whether he finished his part in a movie is finished when he has a 2 year old daughter he left behind? WTF indeed.
Your Mom's Box by 5 by 5	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:20:15 AM
It's pretty stupid to paint with broad strokes Your Mom's Box. I've seen a lot of this guys work, and when I saw the headline on Fox News, I was genuinely sad and shocked. I would have been just as shocked before he was cast in a Batman movie. Hell I just watched him in Casanova because somebody here had mentioned he was good in that. The truth is you have no fucking clue what each individual feels, why they are here, and how they feel about anything or why. That's the truth. So when you say that we wouldn't be so sad about it if he wasn't in Batman, you're wrong. Just. Plain. Wrong. I know it's hard, but try not to think in stereotype. I'm looking forward to seeing his performance in Batman, and I hope that he made some type of deal that if the film is successful, those profits will go to help his family.
FlyinHawaiian by versatol	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:23:05 AM
Some of us care about the TDK being completed because Heath's last film will be the last impression we have of this great artist. Have you seen how crappy Game of Death looked with Bruce Lee being crappily superimposed in certain scenes? We want Heath to go out on a high note as he was supposed to.
WHO CARES ABOUT FILMS AT THIS STAGE? by Vamp-AICNchat	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:24:15 AM
Not me, I more concerned about a 2 year-old girl who hasn't got a dad now.
The Joker by Scared Crab	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:29:34 AM
All of us on this site will remember Heath as the Joker no matter what. We're geeks and this is a geek role! Condolences to his family...he will be missed.
Are you jerkoffs serious? by SilentP	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:33:11 AM
Just because some people are concerned about whether or not The Dark Knight is still finish-able doesn't mean we are not concerned at all about Heath Ledger's death, and that we do not have respect for him. These worries are not mutually exclusive. IT IS POSSIBLE TO WORRY ABOUT TWO THINGS AT THE SAME TIME.
For all you folks knockin Harry by kafka07	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:35:21 AM
This is a movie website. This info he wrote here is relevant and morally acceptable. And it's one of the things going through a lot of people's minds right now, is what the hek is gonna happen next. How do you even know who Heath Ledger is? Because he's in MOVIES. I am sorry if this sounds nasty because your concern over his death is real, and I respect that. He was a real person, yes. But he's not your neighbor or your brother.
R.I.P. Heath by That 70s Venom	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:41:34 AM
Rest in peace brother.
ATTN : PFFFT by hard8	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:49:00 AM
and you're so concerned about death that you're on a talkback forum taking your wildly mistargeted grief out of someone you don't even know, about someone you don't even know. Logic > you.
rip shia labeuf by seabiscuits	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:49:05 AM

CNN had Dr Drew on talking about by the podosphere	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:49:10 AM
a narcissism inventory he's given quite a few actors and musicians. I can't decide right now whether that interview constitutes good journalism or the ghoulish dissection of a couple of fresh bodies.
Very Sad by secretcylon	Jan 23rd, 2008 12:57:02 AM
My sister made me watch a Knight's Tale and he wwas even good in that.
Yeah, they should dedicate TDK to him by SpencerTrilby	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:00:38 AM
if not WB are sick bastards.
One last time by Your Moms Box	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:01:43 AM
If some of you would get off your high horse and put your hand in your pocket instead of waving a finger at me like an insolent child and listen, maybe you'll understand. I do not care about Heath Ledger. Is it a shame he died? Yes. Especially so young. Was he a good actor? Sure, I liked a few things I saw him in, and was looking forward to see his performance as the Joker. However, the bottom line is the guy wouldn't give a shit even if he heard about me dying, and well, thats the way it is. Fine. Thats not what I was talking about, and yet its what this thread has turned it into. Im saying, that because Ledger was playing the Joker, and for that reason ONLY, he is getting press here the likes of which we've never seen. Look at Renfro. What did he get? a day late obit from Harry, and a few talkbackers saying "I told you so!" Had Renfro been signed to play Robin though, holy shit! It would have been as though a king had died, much like it is here. I'm simply pointing out that this site isnt the great movie reporting page that these jerkoffs are clouting it to be. People tell me not to think in sterotypes. I cant. I'm not wrong. Theres no way all this attention would be paid to Ledger's demise had he not been set to be your Joker. An actor needs to be in a comic book movie to gain respect around here in a lot of the cases. Its true. And yea, the way the first thing this site did was wonder if he completed his role did and still does make me sick. As I said nine times, had this been 2 years ago, and he was making Brokeback Mountain and died, Harry wouldnt at all be concerned with this "immensely talented actor" completing his role or not. Hes in a comic book movie, and thats the only reason why the majority of the people that use this site care. Including Harry. If you think I'm wrong, I dont care. If you think Im right I dont care. Im done arguing about this. Peace.
Monsters Ball. Really thought he came into.. by GQtaste	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:05:31 AM
..his own around that time. Yes, is was a minor part and yes, he comits suicide in the film. But justthesame, that's when I noticed a change in his career.
endless, pointless static, but yet you all want to be heard.... by noncents	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:06:00 AM
...a moment of silence for an artist...every life is worth that much...this post should have never happened...and neither have should the self-absorbed comments....silence........... ............................
you goddam nerd by Happy Boy	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:12:18 AM
URMOMSBOX wrote: "the guy wouldn't give a shit even if he heard about me dying" that's a pretty high threshold to ask of a movie actor. if that's the cuttoff, then everyone on this messageboard, and everyone in the world is on your hit list. HINT:if one fat geek bit the big one in the forest would anyone care? the real BOTTOM LINE, isn't whether anyone cares if YOU exist (the answer is no) it's that Ledger was genuinely one of the best young actors, and the one of the few that most moviegoers didn't have the sudden urge to throttle with their smug self-complacent attitudes (Shia Lebouff are you listening? jewish kid from Juno, are you there?) This talkback splits into 2 camps: people who know movies and understand what a loss Heath Ledger is and those who come here to post 300 words of talkback no one cares about their own lives because there's no one in the real world who cares to listen
ATTN: HARD8 by PFFFFT	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:14:14 AM
GRIEF? who said anything about grief? my grief? i'm not grieving at all fool. way to try and flip the argument. my comments were purely in retaliation of harry caring more about an unfinished movie role than that person's death. the guy left behind a little 2 yr old. you fucking piece of shit. you're as bad as harry. hopefully you'll be #3.
gilliam just cant catch a break by ls420	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:16:26 AM
every movie..drama and more drama
I actually didn't think about the Joker by Sepulchrave	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:18:28 AM
I sort of knew that Batman was in the can. I really just felt shocked that such a great actor and (it seemed) decent guy had done the dumbest thing in the world. Again.
So did anyone win yet? by gotilk	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:20:57 AM
Who has the highest moral ground to stand on? Names? Is there a second and third place winner decided yet?
Uh. by Mostholy	Jan 23rd, 2008 01:21:09 AM
Are we really getting lessons on how to mourn one of the more promising actors of our generation from a guy called "Your Mom's Box"? Please, get over yourself. Yes, Ledger's passing got more play in every media outlet than Renfro's. Why? Because it was more of a surprise, and Ledger is still an A-lister, and, yes, he's playing the Joker, and many of us have an emotional investment in that forthcoming two hours of entertainment. Such is the way of the world...get used to it. Look, if it's any consolation to you, noone's life is important in the end. Our tiny sun in this pitiful, infinitesimal corner of our universe will wink out someday and noone -- not you or me or Ledger or Renfro or

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